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<blockquote data-quote="thequick12" data-source="post: 910088" data-attributes="member: 9797"><p>Ok let's see here haha...</p><p></p><p>I do agree with gutes philosophy of moving around the board to find "sweet spots". I just don't agree that he's been that great at it. I don't think he had to do it for Amari Rodgers this year or Oren Burks off the top of my head. I feel like he has left a lot of value on the table. Dillion and Deguara while not trades...reaches</p><p></p><p>Haha I am a bit crazy but I'm also all about common sense. And yeah of course the trade had TT made it, would of gone down as legend but that's revisionist history as well as results based thinking. My point is if he traded up and he didn't need to, which he didn't, he'd have left value on the table. Not that it wouldn't possibly work out...I believe it is seen as his best pick in this reality?</p><p></p><p>No I was not arguing that historical in the NFL players drafted in the 4th round have longer careers than players drafted in the first. I was saying that in my memory of recent Packers late first round picks and 4th rounders. Off the top of my head I feel like the fourth rounders have been better.</p><p></p><p>Which is why those 4 came to mind...I didn't intentionally not choose gute picks but he was a high ranking scout at the time of a few or all of those I'm certain. I can compile the list from how about 95 thru 2019 and I think it'll show to be pretty close between late first rounders pick 25 or later and fourth rounders</p><p></p><p>I liked the Jaire Alexander trade at the time it happened because 1 they added an extra 1st in the 2019 draft and 2 I loved the player on tape only concern was injury.</p><p></p><p>I would of rated it an 8 at the time and a 10 now</p><p></p><p>The King thing I didn't like from the moment it happened...I was set on TJ Watt just because I knew he was gonna be all football and he was at a position of need and he was good value at #29</p><p>Also I knew someone I really trusted that told me he wasn't anything like JJ as a person in a good way. So I thought he was a homerun. Which I posted here pre draft...</p><p></p><p>So TT gets a 2 for that move at the time and a 0 now</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thequick12, post: 910088, member: 9797"] Ok let's see here haha... I do agree with gutes philosophy of moving around the board to find "sweet spots". I just don't agree that he's been that great at it. I don't think he had to do it for Amari Rodgers this year or Oren Burks off the top of my head. I feel like he has left a lot of value on the table. Dillion and Deguara while not trades...reaches Haha I am a bit crazy but I'm also all about common sense. And yeah of course the trade had TT made it, would of gone down as legend but that's revisionist history as well as results based thinking. My point is if he traded up and he didn't need to, which he didn't, he'd have left value on the table. Not that it wouldn't possibly work out...I believe it is seen as his best pick in this reality? No I was not arguing that historical in the NFL players drafted in the 4th round have longer careers than players drafted in the first. I was saying that in my memory of recent Packers late first round picks and 4th rounders. Off the top of my head I feel like the fourth rounders have been better. Which is why those 4 came to mind...I didn't intentionally not choose gute picks but he was a high ranking scout at the time of a few or all of those I'm certain. I can compile the list from how about 95 thru 2019 and I think it'll show to be pretty close between late first rounders pick 25 or later and fourth rounders I liked the Jaire Alexander trade at the time it happened because 1 they added an extra 1st in the 2019 draft and 2 I loved the player on tape only concern was injury. I would of rated it an 8 at the time and a 10 now The King thing I didn't like from the moment it happened...I was set on TJ Watt just because I knew he was gonna be all football and he was at a position of need and he was good value at #29 Also I knew someone I really trusted that told me he wasn't anything like JJ as a person in a good way. So I thought he was a homerun. Which I posted here pre draft... So TT gets a 2 for that move at the time and a 0 now [/QUOTE]
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