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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 776223" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>My issue is that if you allow one player on your team to dictate to the staff how they are going to train and condition, then you essentially have to let all of them make that choice. Now I'm sure programs are individualized and they should be. But I'm talking about a situation where the team works with him and comes up with a plan for him and he just says "nah." Maybe for all I know this kid and his dad have it all right from a training perspective. But if you just let all players take care of their training, conditioning, and nutrition on their own without input or oversight, I'm guessing you'd see a lot more players who aren't in the proper shape and who are getting injured at a higher rate. I mean, why do teams employ professional training staffs?</p><p></p><p>Hypothetically, if Cole Madison came into camp and told Campen and Blasko, "My dad and I have the whole OL technique thing under control. You coach the other guys how you want, but I'm gonna be over there doing my own thing," 100% of Packer fans would say he needs to be cut with extreme prejudice. Why should we view it differently when it comes to our strength coaches?</p><p></p><p>I also reject the notion that Mark Lovat and his staff somehow need to prove that they're worth listening to. He has 20 years with the Packers in this field (i.e. he's been working for the Packers since EQ was 1). He has his Masters Degree in the field. He has all sorts of certifications. His staff has an additional 20 collective years with the Packers. I would argue that this 6th round pick and his dad need to prove to the professionals that they know what they're doing, not the other way around. To me, that's like saying that Mike McCarthy needs to convince all these late round receivers that he's worth listening to. That's not how this works-- they need to prove to him that they're worth his time and effort.</p><p></p><p>Now like you said, no one can make him or any other player put something in his body that he doesn't want to or do something with his body that he doesn't want to. And that's fine. But my opinion is that if (and it's a total if-- for all I know, he will work with the staff just fine) he decides that he's going to ignore the Packers' staff and do his own thing entirely, then he can kick rocks.</p><p></p><p>And it would seem that the league agrees. Because he is a day 2 talent that got drafted 207th overall. Hopefully that woke him up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 776223, member: 12283"] My issue is that if you allow one player on your team to dictate to the staff how they are going to train and condition, then you essentially have to let all of them make that choice. Now I'm sure programs are individualized and they should be. But I'm talking about a situation where the team works with him and comes up with a plan for him and he just says "nah." Maybe for all I know this kid and his dad have it all right from a training perspective. But if you just let all players take care of their training, conditioning, and nutrition on their own without input or oversight, I'm guessing you'd see a lot more players who aren't in the proper shape and who are getting injured at a higher rate. I mean, why do teams employ professional training staffs? Hypothetically, if Cole Madison came into camp and told Campen and Blasko, "My dad and I have the whole OL technique thing under control. You coach the other guys how you want, but I'm gonna be over there doing my own thing," 100% of Packer fans would say he needs to be cut with extreme prejudice. Why should we view it differently when it comes to our strength coaches? I also reject the notion that Mark Lovat and his staff somehow need to prove that they're worth listening to. He has 20 years with the Packers in this field (i.e. he's been working for the Packers since EQ was 1). He has his Masters Degree in the field. He has all sorts of certifications. His staff has an additional 20 collective years with the Packers. I would argue that this 6th round pick and his dad need to prove to the professionals that they know what they're doing, not the other way around. To me, that's like saying that Mike McCarthy needs to convince all these late round receivers that he's worth listening to. That's not how this works-- they need to prove to him that they're worth his time and effort. Now like you said, no one can make him or any other player put something in his body that he doesn't want to or do something with his body that he doesn't want to. And that's fine. But my opinion is that if (and it's a total if-- for all I know, he will work with the staff just fine) he decides that he's going to ignore the Packers' staff and do his own thing entirely, then he can kick rocks. And it would seem that the league agrees. Because he is a day 2 talent that got drafted 207th overall. Hopefully that woke him up. [/QUOTE]
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