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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 745316"><p>As a QB coach and OC McCarthy got a lot out of Grbac, Bono and Brooks where he built a reputation as a developer of QBs. On the other hand, he lobbied for Smith over Rodgers when at SF. To what degree Rodgers is just Rodgers vs. McCarthy's contribution to his development is an open question. To his credit, he did not try to make Rodgers something he isn't. Some coaches would seek to stifle the slipping, sliding, bailing and playground tendencies in dictating a stand-in-and-throw approach.</p><p></p><p>The early successes are nearly two decades in the rear view mirror. A couple of things have happened since. As head coach he has a whole lot of other concerns than developing a second string QB. The limited off season work dictated by the 2011 CBA put an end to the so-called QB camp.</p><p></p><p>In the game today, there is so little contact practice from OTA through training camp, it's a flag football exercise playing against the same guys day after day working under the same scheme. In preseason, the work is against second and third stringers. During the regular season there is no time to work on second string QB development where his job is to try to simulate the opponents as the scout team QB. And last but not least, QBs coming out now are almost all spread option players who need to be retooled with high bust potential. One of the top QBs out of the last draft, I forget which one, said he had never taken a snap from over center going all the way back to high school. The masters program in NFL quarterbacking takes place in weekly prep for the next opponent and then taking it onto the field in money games. There's no way around it.</p><p></p><p>There are a couple of options here.</p><p></p><p>Make Hundley work within the system, where the default is to stand in the pocket and work through progressions. While that would benefit him for the long run, I don't think that's the way to win games this season. One comparison that Hundley draws is to Tyrod Taylor. In his first season as a starter in Buffalo, Taylor had decent success getting out of the pocket and using his legs. This season he's standing in and throwing in tight pockets. His pocket presence is much improved in his 3rd. year as a starter, 7th. year in the league. We could say the same with Wilson, where Seattle has used a lot of option and roll out stuff from the get go, gradually reducing it over the years.</p><p></p><p>I think if this team wants to win some games this season they are going to have to tailor their passing game to the player they have now, not the one he might be someday. Asking Hundley to stand in to 2.5 seconds in the notoriously tight Packer pocket with all those short pistol drops and read through 3 progressions is not a winning strategy. Give him timing passes and combo routes where the decision making is kept to a minimum. And when you want to take a shot then do it on short yardage and buy some time with play action. And what ever happened to the vaunted Packer screen game? The execution on these plays has been dismal in recent years. There are running backs now who are suited to it. Can we practice that, please? Last but not least, there should be a fair amount of roll outs or moving pockets to get Hundley in space and let him use his legs as a second option.</p><p></p><p>I'd say lets put in some spread option plays, something nobody has ever seen this team run on tape, except I'm not sure McCarthy or anybody else on this staff would know how to coach it, especially on short notice.</p><p></p><p>And somebody please tell Hundley to rip the ball on outs to the long side of the field. I suspect he's not confident in the hook up and wants to put some slack into it for the receiver to adjust. Every time he throws one of those floaters my first thought is "no pick 6, please".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 745316"] As a QB coach and OC McCarthy got a lot out of Grbac, Bono and Brooks where he built a reputation as a developer of QBs. On the other hand, he lobbied for Smith over Rodgers when at SF. To what degree Rodgers is just Rodgers vs. McCarthy's contribution to his development is an open question. To his credit, he did not try to make Rodgers something he isn't. Some coaches would seek to stifle the slipping, sliding, bailing and playground tendencies in dictating a stand-in-and-throw approach. The early successes are nearly two decades in the rear view mirror. A couple of things have happened since. As head coach he has a whole lot of other concerns than developing a second string QB. The limited off season work dictated by the 2011 CBA put an end to the so-called QB camp. In the game today, there is so little contact practice from OTA through training camp, it's a flag football exercise playing against the same guys day after day working under the same scheme. In preseason, the work is against second and third stringers. During the regular season there is no time to work on second string QB development where his job is to try to simulate the opponents as the scout team QB. And last but not least, QBs coming out now are almost all spread option players who need to be retooled with high bust potential. One of the top QBs out of the last draft, I forget which one, said he had never taken a snap from over center going all the way back to high school. The masters program in NFL quarterbacking takes place in weekly prep for the next opponent and then taking it onto the field in money games. There's no way around it. There are a couple of options here. Make Hundley work within the system, where the default is to stand in the pocket and work through progressions. While that would benefit him for the long run, I don't think that's the way to win games this season. One comparison that Hundley draws is to Tyrod Taylor. In his first season as a starter in Buffalo, Taylor had decent success getting out of the pocket and using his legs. This season he's standing in and throwing in tight pockets. His pocket presence is much improved in his 3rd. year as a starter, 7th. year in the league. We could say the same with Wilson, where Seattle has used a lot of option and roll out stuff from the get go, gradually reducing it over the years. I think if this team wants to win some games this season they are going to have to tailor their passing game to the player they have now, not the one he might be someday. Asking Hundley to stand in to 2.5 seconds in the notoriously tight Packer pocket with all those short pistol drops and read through 3 progressions is not a winning strategy. Give him timing passes and combo routes where the decision making is kept to a minimum. And when you want to take a shot then do it on short yardage and buy some time with play action. And what ever happened to the vaunted Packer screen game? The execution on these plays has been dismal in recent years. There are running backs now who are suited to it. Can we practice that, please? Last but not least, there should be a fair amount of roll outs or moving pockets to get Hundley in space and let him use his legs as a second option. I'd say lets put in some spread option plays, something nobody has ever seen this team run on tape, except I'm not sure McCarthy or anybody else on this staff would know how to coach it, especially on short notice. And somebody please tell Hundley to rip the ball on outs to the long side of the field. I suspect he's not confident in the hook up and wants to put some slack into it for the receiver to adjust. Every time he throws one of those floaters my first thought is "no pick 6, please". [/QUOTE]
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