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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 787226" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>That's an interesting thought. I agree that Belichick is in a league all his own. Who are the coaches in contention after that?</p><p></p><p>I would throw out Nagy, Patricia, Shurmer, McDermott, Gase, Bowles, Vrabel, *****, Koetter, Lynn, Gruden, Joseph, Wilkes, McVay, and Shanahan due to lack of data. I know Gruden has a coaching history, but it's too old to be relevant to me. McVay and Shanahan are the new hotness, and I do like both (especially Shanahan), but we've seen quick success in this league that eventually turns to dramatic failure (e.g. Chip Kelly), so I will reserve judgment.</p><p></p><p>That leaves McCarthy, Zimmer, Tomlin, Harbaugh, Lewis, Jackson, Pedersen, Gruden (Jay), Garrett, O'Brien, Marrone, Payton, Quinn, Rivera, Carroll, and Reid. </p><p></p><p>Jackson is clearly a bad coach, in my opinion. Clearly there are more bad coaches out there as well, but most of them haven't had the chance to prove otherwise, so I'm waiting. </p><p></p><p>Lewis, Garrett, and Marrone are middling. </p><p></p><p>The guys in the conversation after Belichick for the #2 spot to me are Reid, Carroll, and Harbaugh. </p><p></p><p>After them, I see a tier of McCarthy, Zimmer, Tomlin, Pedersen, Quinn, Rivera, and Payton.</p><p></p><p>I struggle with Gruden and O'Brien. Both have impressed me in ways, but the results haven't been there for various reasons. I don't know quite where to put them.</p><p></p><p>So basically, I think McCarthy is somewhere between #5 and #10 depending on how highly one regards the other guys around him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 787226, member: 12283"] That's an interesting thought. I agree that Belichick is in a league all his own. Who are the coaches in contention after that? I would throw out Nagy, Patricia, Shurmer, McDermott, Gase, Bowles, Vrabel, *****, Koetter, Lynn, Gruden, Joseph, Wilkes, McVay, and Shanahan due to lack of data. I know Gruden has a coaching history, but it's too old to be relevant to me. McVay and Shanahan are the new hotness, and I do like both (especially Shanahan), but we've seen quick success in this league that eventually turns to dramatic failure (e.g. Chip Kelly), so I will reserve judgment. That leaves McCarthy, Zimmer, Tomlin, Harbaugh, Lewis, Jackson, Pedersen, Gruden (Jay), Garrett, O'Brien, Marrone, Payton, Quinn, Rivera, Carroll, and Reid. Jackson is clearly a bad coach, in my opinion. Clearly there are more bad coaches out there as well, but most of them haven't had the chance to prove otherwise, so I'm waiting. Lewis, Garrett, and Marrone are middling. The guys in the conversation after Belichick for the #2 spot to me are Reid, Carroll, and Harbaugh. After them, I see a tier of McCarthy, Zimmer, Tomlin, Pedersen, Quinn, Rivera, and Payton. I struggle with Gruden and O'Brien. Both have impressed me in ways, but the results haven't been there for various reasons. I don't know quite where to put them. So basically, I think McCarthy is somewhere between #5 and #10 depending on how highly one regards the other guys around him. [/QUOTE]
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