Tromadz posted Quote"actually that makes sense to me. I still think we should get a new kicker, but that makes sense to me." unquote-------- It surely does not many any sense to This old time (life time) Packer fan who has seen all the Packer field goal kickers for nearly 60 years like Ted Fritsch, Fred Cone, Paul Hornung, Jan Stanerud, and Cris Jacke. Ryan Longwell 82% average puts him up there with the other most accurate kicker in Packer history ,Jan Stanerud who was also in 82% range but only kicked here, three seasons. Ryan has had two poor season in 9 seasons not poor by many other kickers seasons in NFL over the years when Ryan kicked in 70% plus range. The good NFL punters & kickers who have lead the league in both categories in the NFL have kicked in domes and warm weather climates, which Lambeau Field is neither.Despite that Longwell has been right up there with the best with over a 82% average, right behind Vanderjaack of Colts most seasons during his 9 year career in GB, Vanderjaack kick mostly in a dome. If you would check, with all teams in the NFL, you may find, that just about all the field goal kickers this year have a Field goal holder with NFL experience except for Ryan Longwell. Both his holders were rookies at it, and Ryan Flinn came in days before his first NFL game and was tending Bar in Florida last week before getting the call from the Packers. Flinn work two days with Longwell. Tromadz check the Packers website packers.com -Check the board history-Packers career statistics under field goal kicking. and points scored. Then you might want to come back on this topic and you might want to retract your statement posted by you in the first part of my posting. As old saying goes "becareful what you wish for, you may get it." Unless Of coarse, if you are really a Bear fan under the false pretenses of saying you are a Packer Fan.