Giannis and Portis gone?

[weeds]

To the Heat for 4 players and 3 first rounders?

Miami Heat acquire two-time NBA MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo, according to reports

Antetokounmpo, 31, won a championship with the Milwaukee Bucks in 2021.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Heyjoe4]

To the Heat for 4 players and 3 first rounders?

Miami Heat acquire two-time NBA MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo, according to reports

Antetokounmpo, 31, won a championship with the Milwaukee Bucks in 2021.

www.nbcnews.com

Yep, I'm afraid so. This is bittersweet. On the one hand, the Bucks now have the ammo for a rebuild. I was surprised atb how much they got in the trade. There are no guarantees, but they just became a lot younger.

But seeing Giannis leave is heartbreaking. If ever there was a "Milwaukee guy" in sports, Giannis was at the top of that list. I wish him and his family all the best in Miami.

 

[DoURant]

Yep, I'm afraid so. This is bittersweet. On the one hand, the Bucks now have the ammo for a rebuild. I was surprised atb how much they got in the trade. There are no guarantees, but they just became a lot younger.

But seeing Giannis leave is heartbreaking. If ever there was a "Milwaukee guy" in sports, Giannis was at the top of that list. I wish him and his family all the best in Miami.

I agree with this 100%, and in all honesty, I think everyone should be able to agree that for the future of the team, it really needed to be done.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I agree with this 100%, and in all honesty, I think everyone should be anle to agree that for the future of the team, it really needed to be done.

Correct DoURant. Anyone surprised by this hasn't been paying attention. Anyone following the Bucks should have known this would be Giannis' last year as a Buck.

I'm also saddened by the departure of Portis, another hometown favorite.

These moves are both necessary and painful. But hey, Giannis gave us many, many years of competitive basketball and a championship. Can't ask for more. Bobby Portis is just, well, Bobby Portis - and probably loved as much by fans as Giannis.

For Giannis' sake, I hope someday he gets another ring, maybe while the Bucks rebuild. He is a champion in every way.

 

[Heyjoe4]

So the Bucks have the #10 overall pick in tonight's draft, and the 13th in the trade with Miami.

Question for the forum - how did the Bucks get the #10 pick? And to preface that - I thought the team had traded all of its first round picks until 2029 or 2030, way out there.

At any rate , it's exciting that they get two picks this high, along with the young, talented players they received from Miami in the trade. I hate to see Giannis leave. All good things gotta come to an end I guess…….

I'm just wondering how the Bucks have a first round pick this year, even without the trade. Thanks all! Joe

 

[Firethorn1001]

I'm just wondering how the Bucks have a first round pick this year, even without the trade. Thanks all! Joe

They effectively don't have control over their picks until 2031 I believe as that Lillard trade just absolutely destroyed their future.

This year was a pick swap year. They had a pick swap with NO, but then NO traded that swap to ATL. ATL had #8 and Milwaukee #10 so they retained the #10 overall because ATL was higher. Thankfully otherwise NO without a 1st rounder would have just taken Milwaukee's pick

I do not believe they have any 1st round picks in 2027 or 2029. 2028 and 2030 are pick swaps.

Hopefully Herro is flipped for more capital. He isn't going to be loved in Milwaukee that's for sure.

 

[Firethorn1001]

On a separate note, glad its over. Stinks that they will be wandering in the wilderness now possibly for the rest of my life, but after Favre and Rodgers my give a $#!@ meter for superstar passive-aggressive back and back forth 'do I want to be here or don't I' is pretty much empty.

National media gets what they want because they have wanted Giannis out of Milwaukee for the last 6 years.

 

[DoURant]

They effectively don't have control over their picks until 2031 I believe as that Lillard trade just absolutely destroyed their future.

This year was a pick swap year. They had a pick swap with NO, but then NO traded that swap to ATL. ATL had #8 and Milwaukee #10 so they retained the #10 overall because ATL was higher. Thankfully otherwise NO without a 1st rounder would have just taken Milwaukee's pick

I do not believe they have any 1st round picks in 2027 or 2029. 2028 and 2030 are pick swaps.

Hopefully Herro is flipped for more capital. He isn't going to be loved in Milwaukee that's for sure.

This roster is going to get dismantled a lot further before the season. Herro won't play a day in Milwaukee, and Kuzma will probably be dealt amongst a few others. There were talks of a 4 team trade in the past week... this part is the first step that had to happen.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm Happy for Giannis. I hope he has success in Miami.

I'm Happy that he wasn't traded to the Celtics, which was the rumored other team still in the mix.

I'm Happy that the Bucks finally have some draft Capital to play with.

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I'm unhappy that Horst will probably trade or waste the draft picks we got.

I'm unhappy to see Giannis play elsewhere.

I'm unhappy that Horst didn't do a better job with the team while Giannis was a Buck.

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I'm unhappy and happy that I will have more free time, since I doubt I will watch many Bucks games in the next few years.

 

[Pugger]

Giannis and Porter are getting a little long in the tooth and Giannis especially missed many more games than he played. It was time. But it is rather sad to see the last 2 remaining players from that championship team leave.

 

[DoURant]

The (2) 1st Rd picks the Bucks drafted tonight.

#10 Brayden Burries -G- Arizona
#13 Nate Ament -F- Tennessee

Welcome to Milwaukee gentlemen!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Giannis and Porter are getting a little long in the tooth and Giannis especially missed many more games than he played. It was time. But it is rather sad to see the last 2 remaining players from that championship team leave.

This is a valid point with Giannis. While I don't think that 31 is too old for basketball, I do think his rash of injuries where probably in the back of the Bucks minds. Had they decided to continue on with him and not trade him, they risked another major injury, that would have made his value possibly plummet.

Unlike the Packers trading Rodgers because they felt his career had peaked and they had a backup plan, I think the Bucks traded their superstar while his trade value was still high and his game was still at the top.

 

[Voyageur]

Giannis no longer had the game presence with the cast that surrounded him. As I look at the make-up of what's left of the Heat's roster, it's not going to be any better. He needs players who can make plays because he becomes a one-trick-pony driving to the hoop when there isn't a lot of ball movement and opportunities for other players to make shots. The Bucks were standing around watching him play a one-man game. That doesn't cut it, and the injuries mount up when you expose yourself on drives like he did constantly.

I hate that they wasted the opportunities with him there, but it was time to pull the plug because his salary alone was draining the cap pool to get surrounding players that could help. Add in the wasted money every year from Lillard and it was not workable.

I wasn't certain on the picks them made, then I took a look at the new roster and they weren't bad moves. I'm going to guess we're going to see Herro traded away for draft capital for 2027 & 2028, or a 2028 with a young prospect. We might see Myles Turner traded as well, for a young prospect. These would be cap clearing moves. The Bucks could eat a few high-salary players in these swaps for the upcoming season and shed a ton of cap room going into 2027, so they could reach out and grab some huge talent in the free agency market following the upcoming season. You give away this coming season to gain cap room and draft capital down the road. Also, I see Kuzma gone for a pick next year eating more cap this year.

Surprisingly, eating bad contracts for one year can actually be extremely beneficial to a team about to do a rebuild. You need to work your young players you have at low-salary levels into the system and find out which ones you want to invest in for the future, and which ones you let walk.

My problem is that I don't believe Horst is the man to make this transition. As far as our new head coach? I haven't got a clue where he's going to take us.