Giannis has moved their entire family from Milwaukee to Greece

[Voyageur]

If you're looking for a message as to the future with Giannis in Milwaukee, you might want to think about how he's moving the entire family back to Greece. The whole family, including brothers. It's a straight up signal that the time he stays in Milwaukee is now limited. He's going to be looking for a place to play away from Milwaukee, and I do believe he's going to be going East. It might not happen this year, but I think he's gone by the start of next year and this move by him is so his family doesn't get hit with a barrage of trouble from disgruntled fans.

I'm guessing here, make your own decision.

 

[Heyjoe4]

If you're looking for a message as to the future with Giannis in Milwaukee, you might want to think about how he's moving the entire family back to Greece. The whole family, including brothers. It's a straight up signal that the time he stays in Milwaukee is now limited. He's going to be looking for a place to play away from Milwaukee, and I do believe he's going to be going East. It might not happen this year, but I think he's gone by the start of next year and this move by him is so his family doesn't get hit with a barrage of trouble from disgruntled fans.

I'm guessing here, make your own decision.

Well, he has two kids now, and it may just be that he wants them near family. I don't see more to it than that. And after all, he is from Greece.

And while he's always played an outsized role, this year will be even bigger for him. I haven't given up on the Bucks. I haven't given up on the belief that Giannis loves playing in Milwaukee.

I'm looking forward to this season. They may not win a title, but they will be fun to watch.

Why do you think he wants to "go East" - and to which team? Giannis is an honest guy. If he didn't want to be here, we'd all know. That hasn't happened, not even a whisper, and doesn't seem to be anywhere near likely.

 

[gopkrs]

He might be sending them because of the political climate. I wouldn't blame him

 

[Voyageur]

He might be sending them because of the political climate. I wouldn't blame him

I think this is true. What can't be overlooked is the fact that he's divesting himself of everything in the Milwaukee area. So is the rest of his family. They're not going to spend any time in Milwaukee except for basketball and their personal involvement. His wife plans on visiting the Milwaukee area twice a year at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

I believe a player who wants to stay with a team and be part of their future makes it a point to invest in the community. Giannis was doing that, now he's walking away from it. I've seen this a lot in pro sports over the last few decades. When the honeymoon is over, they divest and move on.

I don't think Giannis would be the kind of person who would air laundry publicly. From what I gather from a few sources, the Bucks had entertained a deal with the Knicks about trading him. Just the fact that they were willing to listen to the Knicks could create a little bit of a disconnect from the team for Giannis.

Sometimes these things come to pass, other times it's just talk. The key to where this goes, in my opinion, is going to be based on how well the Bucks do this year. A bad year and I think he tells them it's time for a trade and he wants to go East.

Now, why would I say the Knicks. If Giannis wants to test city life in the US, that's the place to go in the East.

Why East? One day's less travel from Greece. It's essentially two days by air from Athens to the West Coast, and only about 10 hours from Athens with one stop off in a Western European airport then on to the US.

Lots of conjecture.

 

[Heyjoe4]

He might be sending them because of the political climate. I wouldn't blame him

I wonder if he has any room at his home in Greece. It would be nice to get away from the toxic politics we are experiencing.

 

[Voyageur]

I wonder if he has any room at his home in Greece. It would be nice to get away from the toxic politics we are experiencing.

I spent nearly a month in Athens back in the 60s while in the military. We were told to wear civilian clothes when we left our area at Hellinikon Airbase. There was a lot of problems within their government, and a lot of people were anti-American. I was pretty certain the reason for the anti-American sentiments was due to the Communist Party which was illegal but represented by a far-left party that used their votes to stay relevant.

The food was great, the people were great, and the night life was off the wall. I spent more money on entertainment in that month than I would normally in an entire year. I tried to get assigned to the post permanently, but they turned me down.

 

[Voyageur]

Giannis's younger brother is now in the fold with the Bucks. They're doing everything they can to make him happy. Thanasis is a great bench player because he's always upbeat and supportive of the team and can give some respectable minutes if needed. The third? We'll have to see but there's no doubt they have game.

I have no problem with this. The Bucks aren't going anywhere but Giannis is a huge box-office draw, and they obviously haven't found someone who will pay a king's ransom for him so he's going to be staying until his contract runs out or that ransom is offered by a team.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Giannis's younger brother is now in the fold with the Bucks. They're doing everything they can to make him happy. Thanasis is a great bench player because he's always upbeat and supportive of the team and can give some respectable minutes if needed. The third? We'll have to see but there's no doubt they have game.

I have no problem with this. The Bucks aren't going anywhere but Giannis is a huge box-office draw, and they obviously haven't found someone who will pay a king's ransom for him so he's going to be staying until his contract runs out or that ransom is offered by a team.

Yeah Thanasis is worthy of a roster spot in the NBA. It helps that he plays with his brother.

Giannis would be very, very expensive - and there just isn't a team that can offer matching value for him. He's one of a kind and he's a Buck all the way.

 

[Voyageur]

Speaking of how much Giannis loves being in Milwaukee? I think this article says it all. He's not exactly enthralled with being here even though I believe he'll give it his best until his contract expires. But to be honest, I don't blame him for wanting to go home and live in Greece. I also think his next contract will be with a Greek team and it will extend out so far that long after he retires from the game, he's going to make a bundle. The Bucks are going to get squat for him. If they intend salvaging anything, it's time for them to start looking for a trade partner because as I've indicated before, he isn't sticking around any longer than necessary.

MSN

 

[Heyjoe4]

Speaking of how much Giannis loves being in Milwaukee? I think this article says it all. He's not exactly enthralled with being here even though I believe he'll give it his best until his contract expires. But to be honest, I don't blame him for wanting to go home and live in Greece. I also think his next contract will be with a Greek team and it will extend out so far that long after he retires from the game, he's going to make a bundle. The Bucks are going to get squat for him. If they intend salvaging anything, it's time for them to start looking for a trade partner because as I've indicated before, he isn't sticking around any longer than necessary.

MSN

If Giannis really wants to live AND play in Greece, his trade value in the NBA is zero. But he wants to play another 6-8 years in America and cap his career playing in Greece. That's a very different scenario than implying he wants to play in Greece now.

I'm optimistic on Giannis staying with the Bucks for the foreseeable future, and the team is poised for a turnaround after all the offseason moves. I think it's a plus that Lillard is back in Portland (granted, an expensive plus, but managed well by Horst). Horst has also been aggressive in making roster moves. Replacing Lopez, as much as I like the guy, with the much younger dude from Indy was very well done.

Will this play out well for the Bucks? Impossible to say. I've been critical of Horst ever since the Lillard trade, but he deserves credit for the moves he has made this offseason, given that he didn't have much to work with. The Lillard trade was a big mistake, but we all make them. Horst is dealing with it rather than simply stand pat.

I do wish they had a different HC. I like Doc but I think his future is best spent in the broadcasting booth. We'll see if he's up for the huge change that this season presents.

 

[Voyageur]

If Giannis really wants to live AND play in Greece, his trade value in the NBA is zero. But he wants to play another 6-8 years in America and cap his career playing in Greece. That's a very different scenario than implying he wants to play in Greece now.

I'm optimistic on Giannis staying with the Bucks for the foreseeable future, and the team is poised for a turnaround after all the offseason moves. I think it's a plus that Lillard is back in Portland (granted, an expensive plus, but managed well by Horst). Horst has also been aggressive in making roster moves. Replacing Lopez, as much as I like the guy, with the much younger dude from Indy was very well done.

Will this play out well for the Bucks? Impossible to say. I've been critical of Horst ever since the Lillard trade, but he deserves credit for the moves he has made this offseason, given that he didn't have much to work with. The Lillard trade was a big mistake, but we all make them. Horst is dealing with it rather than simply stand pat.

I do wish they had a different HC. I like Doc but I think his future is best spent in the broadcasting booth. We'll see if he's up for the huge change that this season presents.

Rest assured, Giannis is not going to sign an extension or a new contract with Milwaukee. As far as his wanting to play another 6-8 years in the US, it's possible but the move that he made doesn't necessarily suggest that's fact. I'm looking at the worst-case scenario because in today's environment that's becoming more of a possibility. I don't blame Giannis for moving on to be honest, if that's what he chooses. He's given a lot to Milwaukee and earned some solid money for it. Neither side has been hurt by it. The disappointment in not getting another championship in Milwaukee and wanting one could push him East. I say that direction because of it being a much shorter flight to Greece for him and/or family for more personal contact during the season. Based on my experience, and taking flights from LA to Europe, and from Chicago to Europe, there's roughly a 3 to 6 hour difference in travel time, depending on time of day of travel. You pretty much lose a day heading from LA to Greece and gain it back in the return, but because of the 10-hour time difference. I can also tell you that even after 3 or 4 days in Europe, and coming back home, I experienced jet lag for as long as a week, and my differences were 8 hours, never 10.

I know that all sounds anally analytical, but that's what I do. I analyze things. LOL

AS for Horst, he's a joke, sorry! He masterminded the downfall of a great program through his stupid decision making and getting rid of key pieces of a Championship team. Getting Lillard in the first place was a total disaster and some of us have said it since the day it happened. Not once during the Horst years have, I seen him do anything that resembled genius except when he got Holiday under contract and then he screwed that up. Of course this is just my opinion. Everyone has different views of it. I wish mine wasn't so darned jaded as to what I think has been the problem.

 

[El Guapo]

The Bucks need to bring back Sydney Moncrief, Terry Cummings, and Paul Mokeski (just for laughs).

 

[Thirteen Below]

I wonder if he has any room at his home in Greece. It would be nice to get away from the toxic politics we are experiencing.

Amy and I have few regrets in life; one of them is that when we married, I moved to Kentucky instead of her moving to the Twin Cities. We've regretted that almost daily for years, but we thought it made sense at the time.

But our biggest regret is this... her first husband was a Kiwi, and she lived 2 years in New Zealand - but it wasn't long enough to be eligible for New Zealand citizenship. If she'd gained that, we'd have sold everything we owned and moved there many years ago. Now, we're stuck here for the rest of our lives. It's painful for her to remember what it felt like to live here, compared to what it is (and will be) like to live here.

I've known for almost 50 years that what is happening now would inevitably happen here; I just didn't expect it to happen in my lifetime. I'd rather have been wrong about the first detail than the second; and it isn't even specifically about the politics - it's more the complete collapse of our society. Who we are as a people. There are just too many differences between different parts of the country for the country as a whole to agree on enough common values and priorities... it's too much of a melting pot. That's a societal vulnerability that will never change.

If Giannis really wants to live AND play in Greece, his trade value in the NBA is zero. But he wants to play another 6-8 years in America and cap his career playing in Greece. That's a very different scenario than implying he wants to play in Greece now.

As far as Antetokounmpo is concerned (I figured that he should be referred to by his last name, as is customary, at least once in this entire thread), I found this article interesting, refreshing, and well-written.

According to this, there may be reason to believe you're right. The man seems to feel he hasn't accomplished everything he wants to accomplish in the NBA, and that this really matters to him.

https://fox59.com/sports/ap-sports/ap-giannis-antetokounmpo-im-not-there-yet-in-his-quest-to-be-among-the-all-time-greats/

MIAMI (AP) — Giannis Antetokounmpo’s family home in Greece has a balcony that gives him what he describes as an incredible view of Athens. The nighttime routine when he’s there typically goes like this: grab some fruit, head outside, gaze out at his homeland, let time just drift away.

In those moments, his mind always seems to wander.

“I just sit out there and think about what’s important for me,” Antetokounmpo said. “And every time I come to the conclusion: legacy. What I’m going to be remembered for.”
....
But he wants more. Much more. Despite the resume, which is elite by any standard, Antetokounmpo doesn’t think he would be considered an all-time great yet. And that’s why on those Athens nights, while enjoying that plate of fruit, he convinces himself there’s more to accomplish.

And this is an excellent video about how we came to get him at #15. I just happened to find it by searching for a video of David Stern trying pronounce his name. Turns out that Giannis and Stern met for over an hour before the draft so that Stern could learn as much as he could about him, and they spent a lot of time going over exactly how Stern should pronounce his name!

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[gopkrs]

Ad far as what you said the collapse of our society 13. Maybe it is showing that democracy as far as voting is concerned, isn't the way to go anymore. Too many crackpots get too many votes.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Ad far as what you said the collapse of our society 13. Maybe it is showing that democracy as far as voting is concerned, isn't the way to go anymore. Too many crackpots get too many votes.

I largely blame the internet. It's a resource that makes it easy for people to become as educated as they want to be, or as uninformed as they want to be. If you want to just coast through life, not work hard to learn new information about the world or what is happening in it on a day to day basis - just be entertained - then Facebook and Tik Tok are there for you. Let someone else do the thinking, and check in every now and then to see what those people think so that you know what you're supposed to think. Too many people just repeat talking points, and are unable to explain what those quotes mean.

In previous generations, being poorly informed and uneducated came with a cost - you usually didn't do as well in life as people who paid attention in life and acquired the skill of making good decisions. If you were someone who consistently made poor decisions, you probably weren't going to do well in life.

I don't think that's as true anymore, and I think a big part of that is that people have learned to rely on the internet to make their decisions instead of working out the problems on their own. The internet makes it easy to just follow the crowd.

I also blame the collapse of our educational system, which also has been eroded by the internet. Students don't really need to study anymore; they just let the internet do their homework. Too many of them come out of school never having actually learned a damned thing, but that'd be a whole post just by itself.

 

[Half Empty]

Is there nowhere to go to escape the end-of-the-world political tirades? Plenty of places available for that, not a bunch to have tirades about the Packers.

 

[Poppa San]

Is there nowhere to go to escape the end-of-the-world political tirades? Plenty of places available for that, not a bunch to have tirades about the Packers.

But this is the Bucks section, not the Packers. I agree the politics are too all consuming and really don't belong here. Not just me but also the rules for this joint.

 

[Voyageur]

But this is the Bucks section, not the Packers. I agree the politics are too all consuming and really don't belong here. Not just me but also the rules for this joint.

I walked away from another site because of politics. It can get heated and regardless of what side of an issue you support, it can turn friends into enemies very quickly.

I'll admit I do enjoy a good political discussion, but that's done on political sites, not on sports sites. Like a friend told me a few years back. Don't take a hockey stick to use playing baseball and you don't want to use a bowling ball to play golf.

To be honest, he was crazy as a pet ****, but he had a point.

 

[Thirteen Below]

But this is the Bucks section, not the Packers. I agree the politics are too all consuming and really don't belong here. Not just me but also the rules for this joint.

I'm looking at this as a discussion about society in general, rather than politics. I generally don't care to actually talk about politics, especially online, because now it inevitably turns into "this side vs that side", and that's a total waste of time and bandwidth. In fact, I think it's been years since I've had a political discussion in person with anyone but my wife.... many years, I think.

Now.... cat videos... that's a different matter!

 

[Voyageur]

I'm looking at this as a discussion about society in general, rather than politics. I generally don't care to actually talk about politics, especially online, because now it inevitably turns into "this side vs that side", and that's a total waste of time and bandwidth. In fact, I think it's been years since I've had a political discussion in person with anyone but my wife.... many years, I think.

Now.... cat videos... that's a different matter!

I'm with you all the way!

 

[Heyjoe4]

Rest assured, Giannis is not going to sign an extension or a new contract with Milwaukee. As far as his wanting to play another 6-8 years in the US, it's possible but the move that he made doesn't necessarily suggest that's fact. I'm looking at the worst-case scenario because in today's environment that's becoming more of a possibility. I don't blame Giannis for moving on to be honest, if that's what he chooses. He's given a lot to Milwaukee and earned some solid money for it. Neither side has been hurt by it. The disappointment in not getting another championship in Milwaukee and wanting one could push him East. I say that direction because of it being a much shorter flight to Greece for him and/or family for more personal contact during the season. Based on my experience, and taking flights from LA to Europe, and from Chicago to Europe, there's roughly a 3 to 6 hour difference in travel time, depending on time of day of travel. You pretty much lose a day heading from LA to Greece and gain it back in the return, but because of the 10-hour time difference. I can also tell you that even after 3 or 4 days in Europe, and coming back home, I experienced jet lag for as long as a week, and my differences were 8 hours, never 10.

I know that all sounds anally analytical, but that's what I do. I analyze things. LOL

AS for Horst, he's a joke, sorry! He masterminded the downfall of a great program through his stupid decision making and getting rid of key pieces of a Championship team. Getting Lillard in the first place was a total disaster and some of us have said it since the day it happened. Not once during the Horst years have, I seen him do anything that resembled genius except when he got Holiday under contract and then he screwed that up. Of course this is just my opinion. Everyone has different views of it. I wish mine wasn't so darned jaded as to what I think has been the problem.

Well, as far as Horst, building a championship team, winning a championship are all very hard to do in any sport, and he did it by the brilliant acquisition of Holiday. Then, just as quickly, he tore it all apart. But I do give him and ownership credit for being bold in the Holiday acquisition.

I'm not that angry with him because it serves no purpose. Horst's decisions have been examined and re-examined many times. It's in the past. Bye bye.

I'm looking forward to this season. Lots of changes (well, other than HC, but how many HCs can they pay at once?), and the team should be a lot faster and even more reliant as sort of a forward point guard, total oxymoron! It will be a more exciting brand of basketball, if it plays out as expected.

Will they win a championship? Probably not but they'll be much more fun to watch after the last two years of drudgery.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I'm looking at this as a discussion about society in general, rather than politics. I generally don't care to actually talk about politics, especially online, because now it inevitably turns into "this side vs that side", and that's a total waste of time and bandwidth. In fact, I think it's been years since I've had a political discussion in person with anyone but my wife.... many years, I think.

Now.... cat videos... that's a different matter!

We love funny cat videos. Nothing helps relieve the anxiety in today's America like humor. Cat humor is the best!

 

[Heyjoe4]

But this is the Bucks section, not the Packers. I agree the politics are too all consuming and really don't belong here. Not just me but also the rules for this joint.

Yeah and talking politics is a good way to put oneself in harm's way. No place for it here, or anywhere else for that matter. And we have plenty to talk about with the Bucks and Packers.

 

[Poppa San]

. Cat humor is the best!

Have you seen any of the little kids and their dogs? Especially the giggling one year olds playing tag.