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<blockquote data-quote="sschind" data-source="post: 939679" data-attributes="member: 10247"><p>Climbing onto my soapbox:</p><p></p><p>I guess this is a fan thing throughout the entire sports world but complaining about calls that go against you when you know dam<strong>n</strong> well you would be agreeing with the same call if it was in your favor just makes you look bad and it reflects poorly on the entire fan base. We all know that some people saying that was a good non call would be screaming it was a terrible call if it was an opponent doing that to a Packer receiver. You hear all kinds of complaining when the refs make questionable calls against the Packers but when the same types of calls benefit the Packers you don't hear anything or if you do its "suck it up" "play better" "calls even out" and all sorts of other excuses. Remember how much everyone screamed when they missed the facemask on Aaron Rodgers that lead to the Cardinals strip sack TD in the playoff game? The refs missed an equally obvious facemask on Mayfield and I haven't heard one peep from Packers fans. Was it last year when the Packers got a bunch of questionable calls in their favor against the Lions. Within a couple of weeks, might have even been the next week, a couple of people were on here screaming about how the Packers got screwed over on bad calls. I can't say for certain but it wouldn't surprise me if some of those who said nothing about the Lions game were the same ones making the bad call posts the next week. </p><p></p><p>IMO we got away with some pretty obvious penalties against the Browns. They got away with a few as well, although the "well yeah but they got away with...so it evens out" comments always seem to involve far less obvious penalties IMO. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular. I probably couldn't name one member here who I could say for certain has done it. To be honest I could read a post from one person in one thread saying we got screwed and then read a post by the same person in another thread the next week saying exactly the opposite and I doubt if I would know it was the same person. There are a few posters whose avatar I recognize out of the corner of my eye as I scroll through the thread but generally as I scroll through the posts I don't even know who posts what. I read the posts first and unless its a post that I particularly agree or disagree with or it otherwise stands out I rarely look at who the poster even is. Most posts where they start crying about the refs I usually just skip. Just as an example, and this is no way related to anything else I am saying here, there is a member who refers to Gutekunst as Gluten. When I see "Gluten" in a post I know the same person has made the post but I couldn't tell you who that member is. I just don't look at who says what all that much.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying I never do it. I think its human nature to defend your own. If I think it was a bad call I'll say it but I do try to make a conscious effort to say the same thing if the same call goes in our favor. I'm not saying don't call out bad calls. Just don't <strong>b</strong>itch about the refs being inconsistent if you are not going to be consistent yourself. There are a few things that irritate the <strong>h</strong>ell out of me about other fans, of the Packers as well as of other teams, and whining about the refs is right there near the top. </p><p></p><p>Like my signature once said Every team has fans that the fans of other teams point to and say "all their fans are <strong>A</strong>ssholes." Don't be one of those fans. </p><p></p><p>stepping down from my soapbox</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sschind, post: 939679, member: 10247"] Climbing onto my soapbox: I guess this is a fan thing throughout the entire sports world but complaining about calls that go against you when you know dam[B]n[/B] well you would be agreeing with the same call if it was in your favor just makes you look bad and it reflects poorly on the entire fan base. We all know that some people saying that was a good non call would be screaming it was a terrible call if it was an opponent doing that to a Packer receiver. You hear all kinds of complaining when the refs make questionable calls against the Packers but when the same types of calls benefit the Packers you don't hear anything or if you do its "suck it up" "play better" "calls even out" and all sorts of other excuses. Remember how much everyone screamed when they missed the facemask on Aaron Rodgers that lead to the Cardinals strip sack TD in the playoff game? The refs missed an equally obvious facemask on Mayfield and I haven't heard one peep from Packers fans. Was it last year when the Packers got a bunch of questionable calls in their favor against the Lions. Within a couple of weeks, might have even been the next week, a couple of people were on here screaming about how the Packers got screwed over on bad calls. I can't say for certain but it wouldn't surprise me if some of those who said nothing about the Lions game were the same ones making the bad call posts the next week. IMO we got away with some pretty obvious penalties against the Browns. They got away with a few as well, although the "well yeah but they got away with...so it evens out" comments always seem to involve far less obvious penalties IMO. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular. I probably couldn't name one member here who I could say for certain has done it. To be honest I could read a post from one person in one thread saying we got screwed and then read a post by the same person in another thread the next week saying exactly the opposite and I doubt if I would know it was the same person. There are a few posters whose avatar I recognize out of the corner of my eye as I scroll through the thread but generally as I scroll through the posts I don't even know who posts what. I read the posts first and unless its a post that I particularly agree or disagree with or it otherwise stands out I rarely look at who the poster even is. Most posts where they start crying about the refs I usually just skip. Just as an example, and this is no way related to anything else I am saying here, there is a member who refers to Gutekunst as Gluten. When I see "Gluten" in a post I know the same person has made the post but I couldn't tell you who that member is. I just don't look at who says what all that much. I'm not saying I never do it. I think its human nature to defend your own. If I think it was a bad call I'll say it but I do try to make a conscious effort to say the same thing if the same call goes in our favor. I'm not saying don't call out bad calls. Just don't [B]b[/B]itch about the refs being inconsistent if you are not going to be consistent yourself. There are a few things that irritate the [B]h[/B]ell out of me about other fans, of the Packers as well as of other teams, and whining about the refs is right there near the top. Like my signature once said Every team has fans that the fans of other teams point to and say "all their fans are [B]A[/B]ssholes." Don't be one of those fans. stepping down from my soapbox [/QUOTE]
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