Final 3 months of Koren's suspension...

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Koren can officially apply for reinstatement back into the league on September 18, although it might take a couple weeks beyond that before Goodell makes his decision on whether to reinstate him.

Koren started serving the final 45 days of his sentence on electronic monitoring on April 17, so I'm assuming he's probably done serving his sentence by now.

I guess my biggest hope is the guy can just keep himself out of trouble these final three months and come back a better person for it.
 

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I hope so too!
It would be nice for him, and great for us! I think he would feel he has something to prove on the football field.
 

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I hope so too!
It would be nice for him, and great for us! I think he would feel he has something to prove on the football field.

Yes, and we could use his speed and experience. I'd love to see him as the #3 or #4 WR and a KR. I hate seeing RBs back there returning kickoffs because they never break one. It's just dumb. At best, they'll get you to the 40. I can't even remember the last time one of our KR broke one for a TD.
 

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cheesey said:
I hope so too!
It would be nice for him, and great for us! I think he would feel he has something to prove on the football field.

I can't even remember the last time one of our KR broke one for a TD.

me either I do remember a Punt return for a TD by Allen Rossum though. I was at the game when he did it. The Packers were playing the Bucs I had front row seats at the 40! They were perfect and it was a blast.
 

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Zombieslayer said:
cheesey said:
I hope so too!
It would be nice for him, and great for us! I think he would feel he has something to prove on the football field.

I can't even remember the last time one of our KR broke one for a TD.

me either I do remember a Punt return for a TD by Allen Rossum though. I was at the game when he did it. The Packers were playing the Bucs I had front row seats at the 40! They were perfect and it was a blast.

Isn't he on the Falcons?
 

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PackerLegend said:
Zombieslayer said:
cheesey said:
I hope so too!
It would be nice for him, and great for us! I think he would feel he has something to prove on the football field.

I can't even remember the last time one of our KR broke one for a TD.

me either I do remember a Punt return for a TD by Allen Rossum though. I was at the game when he did it. The Packers were playing the Bucs I had front row seats at the 40! They were perfect and it was a blast.

Isn't he on the Falcons?

yes now he is but he was a Packer from 2000-2001. He was originally drafted by the Eagles in 1998 and spent 1999 with them.
 

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I really don't expect to see any further trouble from Koren Robinson. He's on his last chance now, so any more problems and he'll never play professional football again. The fact that he has quietly served his punishment and stayed out of trouble is, to me, an indication that he probably realizes this.

He is a talented player that can help the Packers. Although he's not supposed to be practicing with the team, I'm guessing he's getting tapes of all the mini camps & OTA practices as well as any offensive scheme and play changes that are happening. Although it may take some time to get his timing down with his teammates, he should be able to contribute almost immediately on KRs and fairly quickly on offense.

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I will always wonder what a WR corps of Driver, Robinson, Moss & Jennings could have accomplished.
 

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I really don't expect to see any further trouble from Koren Robinson. He's on his last chance now, so any more problems and he'll never play professional football again. The fact that he has quietly served his punishment and stayed out of trouble is, to me, an indication that he probably realizes this.

He is a talented player that can help the Packers. Although he's not supposed to be practicing with the team, I'm guessing he's getting tapes of all the mini camps & OTA practices as well as any offensive scheme and play changes that are happening. Although it may take some time to get his timing down with his teammates, he should be able to contribute almost immediately on KRs and fairly quickly on offense.

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I will always wonder what a WR corps of Driver, Robinson, Moss & Jennings could have accomplished.
I know what you mean.....the Moss question will always be out there. I'm of course hoping he bombs! That would make me feel LOTS better about him not coming here.
 

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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I will always wonder what a WR corps of Driver, Robinson, Moss & Jennings could have accomplished.

Not to put words in your mouth, but if James Jones snags 5-7 TD's this year and Jennings and Driver and Robinson perform as we expect. I believe the questions about having Moss on the team would be thought of much much less and have less concern among packer fans.
 

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I know not to get my hopes up, and I'm not. But the idea of Donald Driver and a healthy, head-on-straight Koren Robinson starting makes me feel a lot better than Donald Driver and a bunch of rookies and second-year guys, potential be damned.
 

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I can't even remember the last time one of our KR broke one for a TD.



Desmond howard, super bowl, last one i can remember.
 

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Again, everyone forgets that

NO PLAYER EVER SUSPENDED ONE YEAR FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE HAS EVER BEEN READMITTED TO THE LEAGUE!!!

So his MINIMUM bannishment time is after the season starts.
What makes anyone so sure that this commissioner will ever let him into the NFL??

Why would anyone assume it would be before March 1??

Why would Ted Thompson cut Driver, or Jennings, or Jones, or any other receiver?? Why would an unreliable guy who could quickly be gone again deserve one of the precious 53 Packer roster spots?

Until you see how good the draft choices are, and have seen the improvement made by the young players from last year, you cannot assume that Robinson is even good enough to make the team.
 

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Again, everyone forgets that

NO PLAYER EVER SUSPENDED ONE YEAR FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE HAS EVER BEEN READMITTED TO THE LEAGUE!!!

How do you know that everyone forgot? You don't know that so don't say that. I, for one was not even aware of that little statistic and I was going to thank you for pointing it out until you decided to be a ****nutwacker about it.

Bah, who cares, thanks for the info!


Koren will be the first!! :beersign: :beersign: :beersign:
 
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Was it really necessary to bump every Koren Robinson topic from the last 5 months? All I was trying to say is I hope the guy is able to come back from his suspension a better person and be able to help our football team, assuming he stays out of trouble.

If Goodell doesn't reinstate him, it's not like the Packers were going to approach training camp this season expecting him to be here Week 1. **** happens, and we'll be prepared for it regardless.

I do feel the Packers would like to have him back because I don't think the guy would be assisting the team doctor during his sentence, so he can rehabilitate his knee, just so the Packers can forget about him.

I look at it this way, as I'm sure many other forum members do as well. If Koren serves his suspension and gets reinstated, that's great because he'll hopefully be able to help this football team once he gets back up to speed. If Goodell will not reinstate him, what can you do? We'll be prepared regardless, so it's no big deal one way or the other.

Edit: And it's not unprecedented that a player has been reinstated after a 1 year suspension for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy. Leon Lett was suspended for 1 calendar year in 1996 for violating it and was able to come back in 1997 and played until 2001 not to mention a few other players have also been reinstated. Goodell is definitely being a hardass when it comes to his suspensions, which I commend, but it's not like reinstatement has never happened before.
 

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CaliforniaCheez said:
How many silly threads does this topic need????

How bored can someone be to bump threads about Koren and then ***** about it?
Must be pretty bored.
Anyway, it would be NICE if they don't "need" him, but hey, IF he gets to come back and can still play, he has a shot at a roster spot. Heck, they have kept alot less talented guys.
 

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CaliforniaCheez said:
How many silly threads does this topic need????

How bored can someone be to bump threads about Koren and then ***** about it?

No kidding, I believe I've seen his shtick at a different site, isn't that right tlc
 

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On topic, I see no reason KR wouldn't be re-instated. As long as he's done his time, stayed dry, and gone to his meetings as reported, there's no reason Goodell wouldn't re-instate him..


I think the bigger question is, will he make the team, period. IMO his abilities as a return specialist give him his best shot for making the team, not WR.
 

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Well, I thought there was already a thread saying who will have the 3rd receiver spot but I can't find it, so I shall put it here. Here's how I think our receiving corps will be this year:

1.) Driver. Duh.

2.) Jennings. Duh.

3.)Ferguson / Jones. I really don't know which one will win out here. If Ferguson is healthy, I will still have faith in him for this season. Everything I read about Jones says that he is constantly turning heads and making catches. Clowney was first to be signed, but he seems to mainly have speed, with makes me think he will make the 4th spot.

4.) Clowney. I think we all can agree that we could use his speed to at least open up the field a little. However, because of his small size, I can see him mainly being used to stretch the field and maybe the occasional come-from-behind bomb from Favre when he bust free. Hopefully that means a lot of TD's though!! Maybe Martin could work his way in the # 4 spot in certain situations, but I think the speed of Clowney will be most desirable.

I think K-Robs potential spot of the roster will be determined by the success and health of the main receivers when and if he is re-instated. If there is an injury or poor performance, expect to see him fill in the gap. However, if they're doing great, well, then who knows . . .
 

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As to Robinson's reinstatement, I would be amazed if he is not. He's the poster boy of everything Goodell wants from NFL players who've been in trouble. He's done his time, he accepted and served his penalties, he's kept his mouth shut, he's stayed out of trouble. If Goodell wants to show the Pacman Jones' of the world what to do to play football again, Robinson is it.

As to his placement on the team if/when he does return, that'll depend on how well he knows the offense and when he gets his timing down with Favre. Once that happens, IMO he's the second best WR on the Packers roster.
 

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As to Robinson's reinstatement, I would be amazed if he is not. He's the poster boy of everything Goodell wants from NFL players who've been in trouble. He's done his time, he accepted and served his penalties, he's kept his mouth shut, he's stayed out of trouble. If Goodell wants to show the Pacman Jones' of the world what to do to play football again, Robinson is it.

As to his placement on the team if/when he does return, that'll depend on how well he knows the offense and when he gets his timing down with Favre. Once that happens, IMO he's the second best WR on the Packers roster.

I agree if Goodell is really trying to clean up the NFL he will let him back in. Godell is no fool he knows players wont always make good choices and he wont be able to kick them all out of the league. What he needs is for them to see that they can learn from those mistakes and get back in the good graces of the league. He's done the punishment set forth and he kept his nose clean during that time. so my guess is he will be allowed back in.

My bigger concern is wether he will be able to actually keep out of trouble for good. After his trouble in seattle he said all the right things and had everyone fooled that he had cleaned up his act. He even went so far as to check back in to rehab for refresher, and then he fell off the wagon. Addiction is a terrible thing and a lot of people have lost a lot more than he did and still couldnt get the monkey off their back. For his sake I hope he can break this dependency and I truly beleive that everyone deserves a second chance. But I think it will be a difficult choice for the packers, especially if these rookies show potential, to risk a roster spot on a guy who has let teams down before.
 

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I agree if Goodell is really trying to clean up the NFL he will let him back in. Godell is no fool he knows players wont always make good choices and he wont be able to kick them all out of the league. What he needs is for them to see that they can learn from those mistakes and get back in the good graces of the league. He's done the punishment set forth and he kept his nose clean during that time. so my guess is he will be allowed back in.

My bigger concern is wether he will be able to actually keep out of trouble for good. After his trouble in seattle he said all the right things and had everyone fooled that he had cleaned up his act. He even went so far as to check back in to rehab for refresher, and then he fell off the wagon. Addiction is a terrible thing and a lot of people have lost a lot more than he did and still couldnt get the monkey off their back. For his sake I hope he can break this dependency and I truly beleive that everyone deserves a second chance. But I think it will be a difficult choice for the packers, especially if these rookies show potential, to risk a roster spot on a guy who has let teams down before.



I must say, after thinking about it, that I agree with you. He's undoubtedly going to be behind when he comes back and the past is the best prediction of the future. I would really hate to cut a player to open a spot for him, he comes back for a couple of weeks, and is gone again. While he is tempting, I'm almost thinking we attempt some kind of trade to see what we can get for him, and let someone else take the risk.
 

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