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Collinsworth stars in broadcast booth

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Heatherthepackgirl, Dec 23, 2006.

  1. Heatherthepackgirl

    Heatherthepackgirl Cheesehead

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    In the days leading up to the Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers game Thursday night, the NFL Network decided speculation about Brett Favre's future was the best way to sell it.

    The fledgling channel seized on the ambiguity of Favre's intentions to promote the game as maybe the last home game Favre will play at Lambeau Field. The network built their ads for the game around that notion.

    NFL Network play-by-play announcer Bryant Gumbel dutifully brought the promotion storyline into the booth.

    But his broadcast partner, Cris Collinsworth, pronounced the idea dead on arrival.

    "This could be the last time before his home town fans," Gumbel said, referring to Favre. "An iconic figure of unprecedented proportions here in Green Bay, Favre has been a record-setting mainstay at quarterback since 1992."


    Gumbel asked Collinsworth if he thought Favre was coming back, and Collinsworth gave the answer most anyone who has been following the team this year would give.

    "I think anything is possible and I would love to build the drama here a little bit, but if you are asking me to honest, I'd say no," Collinsworth said. "I think he is coming back, I really do."

    What a farewell party-pooper that Collinsworth is. The whole reason the NFL Network chose this game for its eight-game package this season in the first place was with the idea that Favre may be playing his last home game.

    But as bad as he is selling the company line, you were reminded Thursday night Collinsworth has to be the best NFL game analyst in the business without a weekly assignment. He's a good studio analyst, but he's just as good or better at games. It's a shame he's stuck behind John Madden at NBC, which carries just one game a week.

    Collinsworth said he considered tight end the chief need area for Green Bay, something we haven't heard any other analyst say this season.

    "Of the issues that I really believe that the Packers are going to have to address in the off-season is the tight end position," Collinsworth said. "Bubba Franks has been a terrific player here for a long time, but they simply did not get production out of that position that they have in the past. . . . That would be my number one position for the Packers in the off-season."

    Collinsworth missed or struggled with a few rules - there's no pass interference behind the line of scrimmage and a defender had a foot out of bounds before scooping a fumble, so the Packers kept possession. Some games have the benefit of a referee watching in an office in New York who is in contact with a telecast's production truck. It sounded as though Collinsworth was getting some of that in his ear.

    At one point, he called Vikings rookie quarterback Tarvaris "Tillman," instead of Tarvaris Jackson.

    Gumbel seemed relaxed but tentative. At times, he was out of sync with the rhythm of the game. He didn't sound like he was announcing a game, but having a conversation with a Collinsworth while a game was going on.

    He was out of sync with his partner a lot. Gumbel had a habit of talking when Collinsworth was starting to handle replays. So we got a lot of apologies from Gumbel, as in: "I'm sorry, go ahead, Cris." and "Forgive me." And "I'm sorry."

    Gumbel needs to get out of Collinsworth's way. He needs to be more efficient that way.

    Gumbel seems to be aiming at being tart-tongued, getting off some wise-guy commentary.

    He succeeded when Packers wide receiver Carlyle Holiday, the former Notre Dame quarterback, sailed a pass off an option reverse.

    "Weren't those the kind of throws that got Bob Davie fired?" Gumbel said, referring to the former Irish coach.

    Collinsworth noted Favre rearing back like a pitcher to deliver a pass down the middle of the field.

    "He looked like Nolan Ryan on that one," Collinsworth said. "I've seen him do a lot of funny things throwing the football, but that one I've never seen before."

    Gumbel quipped: "It was almost a balk."

    He described the play by both teams in the first half as "kind of moribund." At the beginning of fourth quarter, Gumbel went for a simpler lexicon.

    "(This) has been kind of an ugly ball game," Gumbel said. "There is no way to dress it up."

    The telecast included Favre being mic'd up, but as is often the case we really didn't end up hearing much. We heard the typical collection of thuds and grunts. Oh, yeah, we did hear Favre say before the game to Steve Mariucci as he hugged him: "I love you, man."

    Mariucci is a former Packers assistant who now works for the NFL Network as a studio analyst.

    Maybe the best sound bite was played in the fourth quarter, with Favre explaining to coach Mike McCarthy that he thought receiver Greg Jennings wasn't going stop on a sideline route. We couldn't hear McCarthy's response, though.
     
  2. pack_in_black

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    Nice article Heather, I'm guessing you wrote it yourself? :thumbsup: Really, great job! Pretty sure I heard a liitle of MM's response- something to the effect of "It's only 7-6. We're still in this game! It's only 7-6." As if to say, "Don't pack it in and throw it all over the yard just yet!"
     
  3. packedhouse01

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    As good as Collingsworth is, and he is outstanding, the rest were awful. Gumbel is terrible.
     
  4. tromadz

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    Its in my highlight package. here! Mccarthy looked so frustrated. lol. poor guy
     
  5. porky88

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    Colinsworth new his stuff. I give him credit. Gumble is a bad play by play man but so is everyone not named Joe Buck or Dick Stockton on Fox so it really wasn't all different from what we're used too.
     
  6. tromadz

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    i disagree, i cant stand joe buck! EW!
     
  7. P@ck66

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    "Holy Schniiiikeees" :shock: I agree with Tromadz on something...

    I hate Joe Buck too..

    (Pompous, blow-dried, college boy, self-important windbag....)

    Attention: That tremor you may feel is not the end of the world, just the aftershock of this post.. :beersign:

    Merry Christmas everyone...
     
  8. packedhouse01

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    Joe Buck is a real pro. He's one of the best on the air. I like him.
     
  9. Greg C.

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    Yeah, Collinsworth had done his homework. His analysis of where the Packers are at was pretty much on the money. Gumbel, on the other hand, was kind of clunky. Collinsworth definitely gets a gold star for shooting down the "Will Favre retire?" storyline right off the bat, although he was still guilty of some of the same old Favre cliches that we hear from every single broadcaster who's ever covered a Packer game on national TV.
     
  10. rabidgopher04

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    MM said something along the lines of "we've still got a lot of football left to play."
     
  11. wpr

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    :roll:

    We have been hearing this garbage for 3 years now. It seems that is all the NFL, TV execs and so called football experts can say.
    "This MIGHT be Brett's final years, game yada yada yada."
    If they say it long enough eventually they will be right. And some of them will thump their chests and tell us that they were correct. They will conveniently forget the 6-8 times they were wrong.
     

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