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Breaking News (Draft Talk)

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by magic_8ball, Feb 18, 2006.

  1. magic_8ball

    magic_8ball Cheesehead

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    Ahmad Brooks 6'-4'' 255lbs. MLB from virginia(first round quality player) who originally planned to return and play his senior year was kicked off the football team for an off the field incident. he is now in the process of filing an appeal to enter this years draft. This helps the pack in a few ways...
    1. he gets in the draft and pushes another quality LB deeper into the draft.
    2. his off the field actions plumet his value into the second or third round, making him available to the packers after we select mario williams in the first round.
    3. he doesn't make it in and he is forced to enter the supplimental draft in summer where the packers sit at #5 and unless another team has a glaring need at LB before us we take him then.

    Any way you look at it this is good news for the green and gold!!



    http://virginia.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=514271
     
  2. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    If we take him early in the supplimental draft wouldn't we lose our first round pick next year? Although I'm optimistic the team can turn it around, in all likelyhood the team will be picking in the top 10 again next year. Unless Brooks is a projected top 10 talent will it really be worth taking him? I wouldn't mind him in the middle rounds of the supplimental draft though.
     
  3. magic_8ball

    magic_8ball Cheesehead

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    Yes we would have to give up our first round next year, however before he decided to go back to school this year he was considered the next best linebacker after hawk. he would have definatley been in the top twenty, top ten i'm not sure. however i have confidence the pack can turn it arounfd and get a steal of a top ten pick next year fro their pick number 22 or in 2007.
     
  4. subin

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    Wasn't there just a topic on attitude, and about how everybody doesn't want anymore assholes on the team? I'm confused
     
  5. retiredgrampa

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    Maybe there are "good" a$$holes and "bad" a$$holes" in football. My opinion is if he doesn't have a history of bad dehavior and can help the Pack, I would go all out. Personally, I know nothing about him but if he might have been rated just behind Hawk, he's talented. I hope he's allowed in the regular draft. One more good LB to choose from.
     
  6. PackerTraxx

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  7. IPBprez

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    Here's a little Packer Report mumbo-jumbo on April 2006 ----

    Dime a dozen
    Why it doesn't pay to shell out big bucks to free agent Running Backs

    By Doug Ritchay
    , dritchay@sbcglobal.net
    Date: Feb 17, 2006


    As the Packers prepare for the off-season - scouting combine next week, free agency and the draft – one thing they need to make sure they do is spend money wisely.

    OK, that’s not a revelation. To take it further – don’t spend too much money at running back.

    The top free agents in the NFL will be running backs Edgerrin James and MVP Shaun Alexander. Clearly, they are two of the top five at their position, but even their own teams are wondering if it makes good business sense to keep these star players.

    This tells you all you need to know about running backs. They are a dime a dozen.

    Running back, as we have seen over the years, is not a position where it is wise to spend big bucks. Look at Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh. Who was its leading rusher? Willie Parker? Nobody knew who he was before the start of 2005, but he got a chance and exploded.

    Look at the Packers’ past. Edgar Bennett, Dorsey Levens and Ahman Green (who was traded for) were picked in the third round or after of the NFL draft and each became quality players. Running back is the top position in the NFL where spending big money on a player make no sense – excluding specialist positions.

    The Packers could be set up perfectly for 2006 at running back, not only in talent but money. Samkon Gado showed promise late last season and comes cheap as a Yugo. If the Packers retain either Green or the injury-prone Najeh Davenport, both are coming off injuries, meaning no team will be knocking their door down with a big deal. Then you have Tony Fisher, or whoever becomes the Packers’ No. 3 back.

    If Gado picks up where he left off, and Green or Davenport come back in good health, the running back spot is one the Packers don’t have to worry about. The only worry here is knowing 100 percent if Gado can start, and that won’t be determined until preseason or the regular season.

    Furthermore, the new coaching staff isn’t familiar with Gado, leaving the running back position in question, for now.

    The Packers should re-sign Green to go with Gado and pick a running back in the third or fourth round to groom. Sometimes you have to take chances, and going with the Gado-Green combo for one season is worth it.

    Last year, the Steelers didn’t panic when Jerome Bettis and Duce Staley each were injured in the preseason. They felt confident Parker would step up. No question, Parker surpassed their expectations, but these stories happen every season.

    Last season, Green’s salary was $4.3 million and his salary cap number was $5.6 million. He was ineffective early and then injured. It became a waste of money. The position is too fragile to throw major money at a player unless his name is LaDainian Tomlinson.

    Also, USC’s Reggie Bush will be the top pick of the draft by Houston. Great athlete, but how great will he be behind an offensive line that’s a sieve? Running backs obviously have a value in an offense, but the only running back I ever saw run well without a good offensive line was Barry Sanders.

    Running backs are reliant on the five linemen in front. If they can’t block, the running back can’t run, which is why the Packers need to limit their spending at running back this off-season. Find a deal, take it, but otherwise go with Gado and Green, and it’s not out of the realm of possibility the Packers’ running game becomes effective again.

    And then the Packers can concentrate on upgrading other positions, like defensive end, linebacker, the secondary and offensive line.

    This is what I would do, if I was Packers GM Ted Thompson. I wonder what Ted will do?

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    We're still in Limbo, guys.... hang in there....
     
  8. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    That sure is the truth. Glad I'm not the only one who realizes Barry didn't have a good offensive line like most Emmit Smith/Walter Payton lovers think.
     
  9. cheesey

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    Nope.....Sanders did most of it on his own! He was a one of a kind back! I still marvel at some of the moves that guy could make. If he would have been on a decent team, they would have won MANY super bowls.

    Now, this linebacker......i'd say the Packers would have to check into his character VERY much, to make SURE he wasn't a bad apple before even considering drafting him. Talent is great,but if it tears apart a team, who needs him? (AKA T. Owens)
     
  10. digsthepack

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    Zero.....Walter never had a decent line until the very last years of his career. Most of his yards came the hard way....and by the time he actually had a line of worth, he had begun splitting time with Neal Anderson. I am a lifelong Packers' fan, but Walter is one guy who transcends the color of his uniform. I had/have so much admiration for how he went about his business, both on and off the field.
     
  11. Schmitty

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    Defanatly agree. Walter Payton is the one Bear I will always admire. He is still the best tailback of all time in my book.
     
  12. P@ck66

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    Sorry to burst your bubble...but this article is pretty much bullshit..!

    If you don't have a running back who can hit the holes or have the moves..you don't have much..

    LaDanian Thompson and Tiki Barber are a case in point.....

    No..RB takes a little more skill then this guy is giving them credit for....

    Gado is unproven...as of yet...

    I wouldn't depend on him...alone..
     
  13. tromadz

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    he has spoken
     
  14. DePack

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    I agree with P@ck66.... but I would substitute Tomlinson for Thompson.
     
  15. P@ck66

    P@ck66 Banned Banned

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    Man..i thought that was wrong when I typed it...

    ONe too many beers..i guess...

    Way to give me a crackback when I ain't lookin' DePack...i deserved it..!

    (At least I didn't write...Thomplinson...or something like that! Got the LaDanian part right anyway!!)
     
  16. Chamuko

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    Mee too I will also subsitute Tomlison for a .45 Thomson !!!!! Tommy Guns Rule!!!!!!
     
  17. retiredgrampa

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    I wouldn't say good RBs are a dime a dozen, but they are definitely more plentiful than good DEs or LTs, IMO. Hell, if a guy like Gado can gain yardage,with his little experience, there is hope for a lot of RBs.
     
  18. CaliforniaCheez

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    Retired Grandpa is right. Remember a 6th round pick of the Packers who got a thousand yards by the name of Don Woods??

    Look at the late round picks Denver seems to have success with.

    How about that Bears first round pick Cedric Benson? Out gained by Gado in rushing and receiving BEFORE Benson went down with injury.

    The guys opening the holes are a lot more important. Guys who can open holes and then get out and block the linebacker (like Wahle) are worth a lot.
     
  19. DePack

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    Yea....you got the hardest part of his name right! Gotta be the beer :lol:
     

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