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<blockquote data-quote="Bagadeez04" data-source="post: 434406" data-attributes="member: 2104"><p>Well you can count me among those who believe that the loss of Collins and Jenkins is the primary cause of our defensive problems. The big loss was Jenkins though, since it seems that without him this team is incapable of applying a consistant pass rush. Of course there are other factors at play here, but I think the anemic pass rush has lead to more zone defenses and using 5th and 6th rushers to try to get pressure, which both of those things mean lots of big gaping holes in the secondary.</p><p> </p><p>I agree that getting Collins back would be huge...he is a very good player and I think has a settling effect on the secondary. But it is very unlikely that we draft a guy and he instantly is a pass rush stud...I understand it can happen (as with CM3 as you pointed out), but the large majority of time it takes a couple years to develop a good pass rusher at the NFL level...and a lot of times a guy who looks like a pass rush stud in college winds up being a bust in the pros (more often than not probably).</p><p> </p><p>The point of my post is that it will take time to get this defense back to being even decent IMO. I mean if you take a look at the Packers defenses of 2009, 2010 and 2011, which one was the fluke year?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagadeez04, post: 434406, member: 2104"] Well you can count me among those who believe that the loss of Collins and Jenkins is the primary cause of our defensive problems. The big loss was Jenkins though, since it seems that without him this team is incapable of applying a consistant pass rush. Of course there are other factors at play here, but I think the anemic pass rush has lead to more zone defenses and using 5th and 6th rushers to try to get pressure, which both of those things mean lots of big gaping holes in the secondary. I agree that getting Collins back would be huge...he is a very good player and I think has a settling effect on the secondary. But it is very unlikely that we draft a guy and he instantly is a pass rush stud...I understand it can happen (as with CM3 as you pointed out), but the large majority of time it takes a couple years to develop a good pass rusher at the NFL level...and a lot of times a guy who looks like a pass rush stud in college winds up being a bust in the pros (more often than not probably). The point of my post is that it will take time to get this defense back to being even decent IMO. I mean if you take a look at the Packers defenses of 2009, 2010 and 2011, which one was the fluke year? [/QUOTE]
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