2025 Draft Media Stuff

[Dantés]

Here's a thread for anything that you might notice or want to highlight from the media types (Brugler, Zierlein, Jeremiah, PFF, etc.).

 

[Dantés]

Jeremiah dropped his first Top 50 for the 2025 draft.

I know very little about this class, but here's what I notice positionally about his top players at this point:

EDGE: 9 (1, 6, 16, 20, 23, 27, 28, 40, 46)
DT: 7 (4, 18, 22, 26, 39, 42, 50)
WR: 5 (2, 15, 24, 25, 32)
OT: 5 (8, 19, 30, 38, 47)
CB: 5 (9, 12, 43, 44, 45)
TE: 4 (5, 7, 35, 49)
IOL: 4 (14, 17, 31, 48)
RB: 4 (3, 29, 34, 36)
QB: 3 (10, 11, 41)
LB: 2 (13, 37)
SAF: 2 (21, 33)

Jeremiah clearly sees the strength of this class as being the defensive line. That might impact GB's decision regarding Slaton and/or paying for a veteran replacement.

If Jeremiah is correct that the top of this draft is weakest at safety, linebacker, quarterback, and running back, I think that plays nicely into the Packers' hands. Other than signing a veteran linebacker, I don't think they have a real need at any of those positions.

 

[tynimiller]

Jeremiah dropped his first Top 50 for the 2025 draft.

I know very little about this class, but here's what I notice positionally about his top players at this point:

EDGE: 9 (1, 6, 16, 20, 23, 27, 28, 40, 46)
DT: 7 (4, 18, 22, 26, 39, 42, 50)
WR: 5 (2, 15, 24, 25, 32)
OT: 5 (8, 19, 30, 38, 47)
CB: 5 (9, 12, 43, 44, 45)
TE: 4 (5, 7, 35, 49)
IOL: 4 (14, 17, 31, 48)
RB: 4 (3, 29, 34, 36)
QB: 3 (10, 11, 41)
LB: 2 (13, 37)
SAF: 2 (21, 33)

Jeremiah clearly sees the strength of this class as being the defensive line. That might impact GB's decision regarding Slaton and/or paying for a veteran replacement.

If Jeremiah is correct that the top of this draft is weakest at safety, linebacker, quarterback, and running back, I think that plays nicely into the Packers' hands. Other than signing a veteran linebacker, I don't think they have a real need at any of those positions.

The trenches on defensive side are loaded, and truthfully it’s quite deep at edge too for me compared to recent drafts.

The top tier OL isn’t there but I really love that mid range 3rd-6th level class. A lot of high floor consistent guys that thanks to Covid years have a lot of proven experience.

 

[Dantés]

Another thing I want to post here for the sake of being able to look back on it later is the PFF big board. I don't believe they archive various versions like DJ does, so I want to be able to look back and see how much it changes.

1. T. Hunter, CB, COL
2. A. Carter, ED, PSU
3. T. McMillan, WR, AZ
4. M. Graham, DT, UM
5. A. Jeanty, RB, BSU
6. W. Johnson, CB, UM
7. M. Starks, S, UGA
8. W. Campbell, OT, LSU
9. J. Pearce, ED, TEN
10. L. Burden, WR, MIZZ
11. M. Green, ED, MAR
12. J. Simmons, OT, OSU
13. T. Warren, TE, PSU
14. E. Egbuka, WR, OSU
15. K. Banks, OT, UT
16. B. Morrison, CB, ND
17. C. Ward, QB, MIA
18. M. Williams, ED, UGA
19. W. Nolsen, DT, MISS
20. S. Stewart, ED, TAMU
21. A. Membou, OT, MIZZ
22. J. Sawyer, ED, OSU
23. K. Grant, DT, UM
24. M. Golden, WR, UT
25. O. Hampton, RB, UNC
26. G. Zabel, OT, NDSU
27. N. Scourton, ED, TAMU
28. T. Williams, DT, OSU
29. J. Conerly, OT, OR
30. J. Barron, CB, UT
31. C. Loveland, TE, MICH
32. D. Knight, LB, SC
33. T. Amos, CB, MISS
34. S. Revel, CB, ECU
35. D. Ezeiruaku, ED, BC
36 E. Ayomanor, WR, STAN
37. T. Sanders, DT, SC
38. J. Bech, WR, TCU
39. L. Jackson, ED, ARK
40. P. Umanmielen, ED, MISS
41. J. Campbell, LB, UA
42. S. Sanders, QB, COL
43. J. Tuimoloau, ED, OSU
44. X. Watts, S, ND
45. T. Booker, G, UA
46. C. Skattebo, RB, ASU
47. O. Norman-Lott, DT, TEN
48. C. Schwesinger, LB, UCLA
49. X. Restrepo, WR, MIA
50. D. Porter, CB, IAST

There are 16 guys in their list that Jeremiah didn't rank in his:

Nolsen, Scourton, T. Williams, Knight, Amos, Revel, Ayomanor, Bech, L. Jackson, Umanmielen, Tuimoloau, Watts, Skattebo, Norman-Lott, Restrepo, Porter

It will be interesting to see who moves more throughout the process.

 

[tynimiller]

Another thing I want to post here for the sake of being able to look back on it later is the PFF big board. I don't believe they archive various versions like DJ does, so I want to be able to look back and see how much it changes.

1. T. Hunter, CB, COL
2. A. Carter, ED, PSU
3. T. McMillan, WR, AZ
4. M. Graham, DT, UM
5. A. Jeanty, RB, BSU
6. W. Johnson, CB, UM
7. M. Starks, S, UGA
8. W. Campbell, OT, LSU
9. J. Pearce, ED, TEN
10. L. Burden, WR, MIZZ
11. M. Green, ED, MAR
12. J. Simmons, OT, OSU
13. T. Warren, TE, PSU
14. E. Egbuka, WR, OSU
15. K. Banks, OT, UT
16. B. Morrison, CB, ND
17. C. Ward, QB, MIA
18. M. Williams, ED, UGA
19. W. Nolsen, DT, MISS
20. S. Stewart, ED, TAMU
21. A. Membou, OT, MIZZ
22. J. Sawyer, ED, OSU
23. K. Grant, DT, UM
24. M. Golden, WR, UT
25. O. Hampton, RB, UNC
26. G. Zabel, OT, NDSU
27. N. Scourton, ED, TAMU
28. T. Williams, DT, OSU
29. J. Conerly, OT, OR
30. J. Barron, CB, UT
31. C. Loveland, TE, MICH
32. D. Knight, LB, SC
33. T. Amos, CB, MISS
34. S. Revel, CB, ECU
35. D. Ezeiruaku, ED, BC
36 E. Ayomanor, WR, STAN
37. T. Sanders, DT, SC
38. J. Bech, WR, TCU
39. L. Jackson, ED, ARK
40. P. Umanmielen, ED, MISS
41. J. Campbell, LB, UA
42. S. Sanders, QB, COL
43. J. Tuimoloau, ED, OSU
44. X. Watts, S, ND
45. T. Booker, G, UA
46. C. Skattebo, RB, ASU
47. O. Norman-Lott, DT, TEN
48. C. Schwesinger, LB, UCLA
49. X. Restrepo, WR, MIA
50. D. Porter, CB, IAST

There are 16 guys in their list that Jeremiah didn't rank in his:

Nolsen, Scourton, T. Williams, Knight, Amos, Revel, Ayomanor, Bech, L. Jackson, Umanmielen, Tuimoloau, Watts, Skattebo, Norman-Lott, Restrepo, Porter

It will be interesting to see who moves more throughout the process.

I pulled the entire consensus board a week back or so. I’ll paste it here tomorrow, not on computer but phone presently.

 

[tynimiller]

Credible or known pundits have mocked Green Bay the following early now:

Daniel Jeremiah & Lance Zierlein - Shemar Steward Edge Texas A&M
Bucky Brooks - Jahdae Barron CB Texas
Mel Kiper - Mike Green Edge Marshall
Melo (Draft Network) - Benjamin Morrison CB Notre Dame

 

[Dantés]

A couple guys who stand out to me in Brugler's top 100 because of how high they're ranked:

-Armand Membou is #8 overall-- likes him a lot more than the Texas kid and thinks he can definitely play tackle.

-Shemar Stewart is #9 overall-- saw a lot of pressure on film even though the sacks didn't materialize.

-Jahdae Barron is #40 overall-- seems to see physical limitations.

By position in the Top 100:

-QB: 6
-RB: 8
-TE: 7
-WR: 12
-OT: 9
-iOL: 6
-DT: 13
-DE: 17
-LB: 4
-CB: 13
-S: 5

I think the depth of the class matches with Green Bay's needs very well.

 

[tynimiller]

A couple guys who stand out to me in Brugler's top 100 because of how high they're ranked:

-Armand Membou is #8 overall-- likes him a lot more than the Texas kid and thinks he can definitely play tackle.

-Shemar Stewart is #9 overall-- saw a lot of pressure on film even though the sacks didn't materialize.

-Jahdae Barron is #40 overall-- seems to see physical limitations.

By position in the Top 100:

-QB: 6
-RB: 8
-TE: 7
-WR: 12
-OT: 9
-iOL: 6
-DT: 13
-DE: 17
-LB: 4
-CB: 13
-S: 5

I think the depth of the class matches with Green Bay's needs very well.

Jahdae reminds me a ton of a more physical Jaire...little undersized (listed at 5'11" suspect he measures in under) but was listed at 200lbs.

 

[Dantés]

Bruce Feldman put out a mock based on what he's hearing and mocked Grey Zabel to the Packers.

If the talk of moving Morgan to left tackle is true, Zabel makes a lot of sense. He has true five position flexibility and could be a really good starter anywhere along the interior. The Packers also have a lot of success playing guys at tackle that most think aren't long enough.

Sean Rhyan is in a walk year and Elgton Jenkins is a strong candidate to be released next off-season.

Historically, they haven't spent high draft capital on interior OL, but they are clearly placing a higher priority on it given the contract they handed to Aaron Banks.

For a number of years now, I've felt that the advent of two high shell defenses was going to recharge the value of a consistent running game. When teams sell out to stop the pass, you have to make them pay on the ground. The Packers seem to agree given all the investment they're making at RB and OL. Zabel would be one more piece in that equation.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Credible or known pundits have mocked Green Bay the following early now:

Daniel Jeremiah & Lance Zierlein - Shemar Steward Edge Texas A&M
Bucky Brooks - Jahdae Barron CB Texas
Mel Kiper - Mike Green Edge Marshall
Melo (Draft Network) - Benjamin Morrison CB Notre Dame

Wow I'd be happy if any of these guys were available at #23.

 

[tynimiller]

Wow I'd be happy if any of these guys were available at #23.

This was quite a while ago...the only one I think has higher than a 50% chance of happening is Morrison given his injury concerns.

 

[Dantés]

The guys at Sharp Football, who tend to be pretty accurate in their mocks, are holding strong with their prediction for GB:

Matthew Golden

By consensus, Golden doesn't have a strong chance of being there, AND he isn't a Packers' type.

That said, I absolutely love him.

I think there are two reasons why people didn't think he looked as fast on tape as what he ran at the combine:

1) Quinn Ewers' deep ball sucks. Golden is often slowing down for passes on film.

2) His speed is more about immediate, explosive acceleration than long striding build-up speed. His 1.47 split is basically 100th%.

He has the skills to separate and his ball skills are really good for a guy his size.

One interesting parallel to me: the 49ers just drafted their own speedy, 190# receiver in Ricky Pearsall and it's been a big success. If that offense can incorporate a guy that size, so can the Packers'.

 

[Magooch]

I was actually meaning to go back through and check this as well. You may or may not be familiar with “Huddle Report” but they have ranked the most accurate mock drafters over the last 5 years. You get a point for placing the player correctly in the first round, and two points for matching the player to the correct team.

Jason Boris is #1, but he usually doesn’t do an early mock at all. He doesn’t have one out this year that I’ve seen yet.

As you mentioned Brendan Donahue (Sharp Football Analysis) has us picking Matthew Golden. He is ranked #2 in that 5-year period.

Xavier Cromartie (Fantasy Football Metrics) is #3. His last mock I saw was in late March, but he had us picking Emeka Egbuka WR OSU.

At #4 we have Lou Pickney (Draft King). He updated his mock today, and has us taking Jahdae Barron CB Texas

For #5 over the past 5 years is Mike Band (NextGen Stats, NFL.com). Mike’s draft went out last week and also had us taking Barron.

And rounding out the “top 5” (I’m skipping #1 as mentioned above - no mock) is Eddie Brown (San Diego Union-Tribune). His last mock was March 24, and had us picking Derrick Harmon DT Oregon

So from the top “5” you have two WRs, two CBs (and the same guy at that) and one DT.

The full list is located here if you want to check any of the other generally-more-accurate guys out.

 

[Magooch]

As you mentioned Brendan Donahue (Sharp Football Analysis) has us picking Matthew Golden. He is ranked #2 in that 5-year period.

Mike McCrystal, who is #8 by these rankings (and also seems to be writing for Sharp now perhaps?) also has us taking Golden.

 

[Dantés]

The plugged in types seem to mostly be leaning WR or CB.

That actually makes sense, vs DL, given where the draft is deep/shallow.

 

[DoURant]

Matthew Golden

By consensus, Golden doesn't have a strong chance of being there, AND he isn't a Packers' type.

That said, I absolutely love him.

I think there are two reasons why people didn't think he looked as fast on tape as what he ran at the combine:

1) Quinn Ewers' deep ball sucks. Golden is often slowing down for passes on film.

If he ends up a Packer, he might feel right at home, because Christian Watson has to slow down, also. I don't think Love has ever overthrown him.

 

[gopkrs]

If he ends up a Packer, he might feel right at home, because Christian Watson has to slow down, also. I don't think Love has ever overthrown him.

Yeah. It's true. I'm hoping he starts throwing a better long ball. He'll need to step into it though. Maybe it's just a matter of touch and timing. And practice.

 

[Pkrjones]

Yeah. It's true. I'm hoping he starts throwing a better long ball. He'll need to step into it though. Maybe it's just a matter of touch and timing. And practice.

Agreed, and I'd rather a 50 yard completion vs. a 54 yd overthrow incompletion. Love needs to keep his legs injury-free in '25 & (hopefully) we see better mechanics & accuracy.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Another thing I want to post here for the sake of being able to look back on it later is the PFF big board. I don't believe they archive various versions like DJ does, so I want to be able to look back and see how much it changes.

1. T. Hunter, CB, COL
2. A. Carter, ED, PSU
3. T. McMillan, WR, AZ
4. M. Graham, DT, UM
5. A. Jeanty, RB, BSU
6. W. Johnson, CB, UM
7. M. Starks, S, UGA
8. W. Campbell, OT, LSU
9. J. Pearce, ED, TEN
10. L. Burden, WR, MIZZ
11. M. Green, ED, MAR
12. J. Simmons, OT, OSU
13. T. Warren, TE, PSU
14. E. Egbuka, WR, OSU
15. K. Banks, OT, UT
16. B. Morrison, CB, ND
17. C. Ward, QB, MIA
18. M. Williams, ED, UGA
19. W. Nolsen, DT, MISS
20. S. Stewart, ED, TAMU
21. A. Membou, OT, MIZZ
22. J. Sawyer, ED, OSU
23. K. Grant, DT, UM
24. M. Golden, WR, UT
25. O. Hampton, RB, UNC
26. G. Zabel, OT, NDSU
27. N. Scourton, ED, TAMU
28. T. Williams, DT, OSU
29. J. Conerly, OT, OR
30. J. Barron, CB, UT
31. C. Loveland, TE, MICH
32. D. Knight, LB, SC
33. T. Amos, CB, MISS
34. S. Revel, CB, ECU
35. D. Ezeiruaku, ED, BC
36 E. Ayomanor, WR, STAN
37. T. Sanders, DT, SC
38. J. Bech, WR, TCU
39. L. Jackson, ED, ARK
40. P. Umanmielen, ED, MISS
41. J. Campbell, LB, UA
42. S. Sanders, QB, COL
43. J. Tuimoloau, ED, OSU
44. X. Watts, S, ND
45. T. Booker, G, UA
46. C. Skattebo, RB, ASU
47. O. Norman-Lott, DT, TEN
48. C. Schwesinger, LB, UCLA
49. X. Restrepo, WR, MIA
50. D. Porter, CB, IAST

There are 16 guys in their list that Jeremiah didn't rank in his:

Nolsen, Scourton, T. Williams, Knight, Amos, Revel, Ayomanor, Bech, L. Jackson, Umanmielen, Tuimoloau, Watts, Skattebo, Norman-Lott, Restrepo, Porter

It will be interesting to see who moves more throughout the process.

Thanks for this list Dantes. Wow surprised to see McMillan ranked at #3. I think the Athletic suggested/predicted a trade up for Green Bay with the Colts that would get them to #14 to draft McMillan.

Lists like this are helpful to identify the BPA at any point in the draft. That gets messed up by the actual draft which is needs-driven. For example, there is little doubt that Cam Ward will go first to the Titans, even though he is probably around the 17th best player in the draft, using this list.

So could McMillan be there at #14 if Gluten trades up? Don't know but I can't see Gluten making such a move unless he knows he'll get his guy.

 

[Heyjoe4]

A couple guys who stand out to me in Brugler's top 100 because of how high they're ranked:

-Armand Membou is #8 overall-- likes him a lot more than the Texas kid and thinks he can definitely play tackle.

-Shemar Stewart is #9 overall-- saw a lot of pressure on film even though the sacks didn't materialize.

-Jahdae Barron is #40 overall-- seems to see physical limitations.

By position in the Top 100:

-QB: 6
-RB: 8
-TE: 7
-WR: 12
-OT: 9
-iOL: 6
-DT: 13
-DE: 17
-LB: 4
-CB: 13
-S: 5

I think the depth of the class matches with Green Bay's needs very well.

Good point - the list really matches up well with GB needs for DL/Edge and WR - even CB. It's anybody's guess what gluten will do. He always has a few surprises that no one sees coming.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Yeah. It's true. I'm hoping he starts throwing a better long ball. He'll need to step into it though. Maybe it's just a matter of touch and timing. And practice.

Love hasn't been good on the long ball, agreed. I don't think it's due to lack of arm strength. Just intuition, but it seemed like there were long balls overthrown last year. That's just my impression.

Love does need to improve his accuracy, on all throws. Seems like he's much more suited to throwing from the pocket (versus Rodgers who was a killer on the run).

 

[OldSchool101]

Love hasn't been good on the long ball, agreed. I don't think it's due to lack of arm strength. Just intuition, but it seemed like there were long balls overthrown last year. That's just my impression.

Love does need to improve his accuracy, on all throws. Seems like he's much more suited to throwing from the pocket (versus Rodgers who was a killer on the run).

True. He started with quite a few underthrown. Making Receivers coming back hard to the ball and either dropping them or getting the INT. I still think that has to do with footwork though as he’s relatively newer to that aspect. If you recall even Rodgers took several years as a starter before his footwork really took an uptick. In his prime he’d just dance in the pocket for like 4-5 seconds. Impressive level. I’d like to see Jordan master that part.

 

[Heyjoe4]

True. He started with quite a few underthrown. Making Receivers coming back hard to the ball and either dropping them or getting the INT. I still think that has to do with footwork though as he’s relatively newer to that aspect. If you recall even Rodgers took several years as a starter before his footwork really took an uptick. In his prime he’d just dance in the pocket for like 4-5 seconds. Impressive level. I’d like to see Jordan master that part.

Footwork is an overlooked but very important part of a QB's game, and I don't mean just running. At least initially, that's a coaching issue. But after four years with the team, and entering his thread as the starter, I expect more from Love.

Love gets the benefit of the doubt for last year's injury-impacted season. He will be under a lot of pressure to significantly up his game this year. I hope he can.

 

[AmishMafia]

Jeremiah dropped his first Top 50 for the 2025 draft.

I know very little about this class, but here's what I notice positionally about his top players at this point:

EDGE: 9 (1, 6, 16, 20, 23, 27, 28, 40, 46)
DT: 7 (4, 18, 22, 26, 39, 42, 50)
WR: 5 (2, 15, 24, 25, 32)
OT: 5 (8, 19, 30, 38, 47)
CB: 5 (9, 12, 43, 44, 45)
TE: 4 (5, 7, 35, 49)
IOL: 4 (14, 17, 31, 48)
RB: 4 (3, 29, 34, 36)
QB: 3 (10, 11, 41)
LB: 2 (13, 37)
SAF: 2 (21, 33)

Jeremiah clearly sees the strength of this class as being the defensive line. That might impact GB's decision regarding Slaton and/or paying for a veteran replacement.

If Jeremiah is correct that the top of this draft is weakest at safety, linebacker, quarterback, and running back, I think that plays nicely into the Packers' hands. Other than signing a veteran linebacker, I don't think they have a real need at any of those positions.

Jeremiah has his top 150 list out. Of note is the 2nd tier strength of this draft. At #10 is CB Jahdae Baron with a 6.42 grade. At #71 he has CB Shavon Revel Jr. with a 6.34 grade.

 

[Dantés]

Jeremiah has his top 150 list out. Of note is the 2nd tier strength of this draft. At #10 is CB Jahdae Baron with a 6.42 grade. At #71 he has CB Shavon Revel Jr. with a 6.34 grade.

One caveat-- the grades are Zierlein's. So it's unclear if Jeremiah has them graded that close.