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<blockquote data-quote="GreenBlood" data-source="post: 317084" data-attributes="member: 1198"><p>Because I find it a waste to repost things I'm not responding to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why can't you get it through your head that there's a lot of variation on how frequent those errors are around the league?</p><p></p><p>Why can't you understand that inexperienced holders can damage the production of even the best kickers? Prime example: Vanderjagt in Dallas. His holder in Dallas was terrible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, which is as good or better than half of the league.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The so-called "clutchness" factor also applies to the holder, especially as inexperienced as ours have been the last two years. Oh, wait, that's right. You're the one who thinks the blame for any missed kick always goes to the kicker. It doesn't require any talent to hold kicks, after all, am I right? All holders are equal? A 4 year-old can do it? Does that about sum up your position, even though you've never held a kick in your life?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, in that case I guess you better cross Robbie Gould off the list. Dan Carpenter too. Same with Jason Hanson, Josh Brown, and John Kasay. </p><p></p><p>You should probably remove Baronis, Longwell, Feely, Tynes, Bryant, Prater from consideration too. They all missed kicks in games they lost too this year. But they were lucky enough that their teams' offenses to sucked enough for it not to matter. The Packer offense is pretty good, so those guys would have probably been guilty of the same crime if they had been Packers this year.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. And yes. Masthay is not a good holder and I reject the claim that his inconsistency is irrelevant, as you want to pretend.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you admit that you clearly still lack any understanding of the importance of providing your kicker with a good, experienced holder?</p><p></p><p>Or should I bow to your superior knowledge on the topic since you're a Supermod soccer player on a web forum, which apparently carries more credibility than my own experience holding for 109 kicks in college (yes, I know the exact number.) which I learned to do pretty well from Dave Krieg at Del Greco's kicking camp?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreenBlood, post: 317084, member: 1198"] Because I find it a waste to repost things I'm not responding to. Why can't you get it through your head that there's a lot of variation on how frequent those errors are around the league? Why can't you understand that inexperienced holders can damage the production of even the best kickers? Prime example: Vanderjagt in Dallas. His holder in Dallas was terrible. Right, which is as good or better than half of the league. The so-called "clutchness" factor also applies to the holder, especially as inexperienced as ours have been the last two years. Oh, wait, that's right. You're the one who thinks the blame for any missed kick always goes to the kicker. It doesn't require any talent to hold kicks, after all, am I right? All holders are equal? A 4 year-old can do it? Does that about sum up your position, even though you've never held a kick in your life? Well, in that case I guess you better cross Robbie Gould off the list. Dan Carpenter too. Same with Jason Hanson, Josh Brown, and John Kasay. You should probably remove Baronis, Longwell, Feely, Tynes, Bryant, Prater from consideration too. They all missed kicks in games they lost too this year. But they were lucky enough that their teams' offenses to sucked enough for it not to matter. The Packer offense is pretty good, so those guys would have probably been guilty of the same crime if they had been Packers this year. Yes. And yes. Masthay is not a good holder and I reject the claim that his inconsistency is irrelevant, as you want to pretend. So you admit that you clearly still lack any understanding of the importance of providing your kicker with a good, experienced holder? Or should I bow to your superior knowledge on the topic since you're a Supermod soccer player on a web forum, which apparently carries more credibility than my own experience holding for 109 kicks in college (yes, I know the exact number.) which I learned to do pretty well from Dave Krieg at Del Greco's kicking camp? [/QUOTE]
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