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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 317072" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>So all the other teams in the league have competent holders, except the Packers?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Clearly you have never played soccer. There are no goalkeepers in football.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/vandemik01.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/vandemik01.htm</a></p><p>No, I'm not saying it doesn't interfere. I did say it does. I'm saying it's that the percentage of times it interferes is irrelevant, because it happens league wide.</p><p>Again, it's very convenient that the blame is put on the holder, and it doesn't translate to every team in the NFL.</p><p>The Packers have had different holders in his tenure. You mentioned Matt Flynn as a good holder, yet he struggled even with him.</p><p></p><p>What's the one constant in all those years he has been kicking and struggling?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it is Slocum's strategy. But it wasn't before, and we were getting killed in kickoff returns. He changed the strategy for a reason.</p><p></p><p>And care to show me the link to where he was 6th in touchbacks?</p><p></p><p>Oh, no, I do think that he has a huge leg. I just it's not productive, as it doesn't translate to better long range %, nor it does to more touchbacks.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. A poster has already proven that Crosby actually has a worse long FG % than Longwell, who has a weak leg.</p><p></p><p>[qupte]</p><p>In 2007, he also had 2 attempts from 60+ yards, which brought his overall percentage under 80%. </p><p></p><p>But what happened when they took Flynn away in 2009-10? His percentage dropped 5-6 percent. (6-7% if you exclude 60+ yarders from the equation). I'm sorry folks, but the naysayers can say what they want, but all of the actual evidence indicates that we have a pretty good kicker in Crosby with a pretty damn lousy holder the past two years.</p></blockquote><p>Why do you keep excluding FGs he attempted? Let's also exclude FGs that others attempted and missed, then...</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 317072, member: 1429"] So all the other teams in the league have competent holders, except the Packers? Clearly you have never played soccer. There are no goalkeepers in football. [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/vandemik01.htm"][/URL] No, I'm not saying it doesn't interfere. I did say it does. I'm saying it's that the percentage of times it interferes is irrelevant, because it happens league wide. Again, it's very convenient that the blame is put on the holder, and it doesn't translate to every team in the NFL. The Packers have had different holders in his tenure. You mentioned Matt Flynn as a good holder, yet he struggled even with him. What's the one constant in all those years he has been kicking and struggling? Yes, it is Slocum's strategy. But it wasn't before, and we were getting killed in kickoff returns. He changed the strategy for a reason. And care to show me the link to where he was 6th in touchbacks? Oh, no, I do think that he has a huge leg. I just it's not productive, as it doesn't translate to better long range %, nor it does to more touchbacks. And if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. A poster has already proven that Crosby actually has a worse long FG % than Longwell, who has a weak leg. [qupte] In 2007, he also had 2 attempts from 60+ yards, which brought his overall percentage under 80%. But what happened when they took Flynn away in 2009-10? His percentage dropped 5-6 percent. (6-7% if you exclude 60+ yarders from the equation). I'm sorry folks, but the naysayers can say what they want, but all of the actual evidence indicates that we have a pretty good kicker in Crosby with a pretty damn lousy holder the past two years.[/QUOTE] Why do you keep excluding FGs he attempted? Let's also exclude FGs that others attempted and missed, then... [/QUOTE]
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