It goes to the coach if this is in fact happening.WOW. that's sad. I never would have thought it. not in the NFL. Tom Brady is my hero (being from michigan and all) but now it makes me question the whole teams integrity.
What did the Broncos do that year?You know.........like the Broncos did the year they beat us. They got to keep the Lombardi trophy, even though they got caught. It SHOULD have been stripped from them and given to say, oh, a team that DID'NT cheat, the PACKERS.
They cheated on the salary cap, so that they could keep Terrel Davis and Elway. They got caught years later, and i believe a million dollar fine. But whats a mill when it buys you a Lombardi trophy?What did the Broncos do that year?cheesey said:You know.........like the Broncos did the year they beat us. They got to keep the Lombardi trophy, even though they got caught. It SHOULD have been stripped from them and given to say, oh, a team that DID'NT cheat, the PACKERS.
They cheated on the salary cap, so that they could keep Terrel Davis and Elway. They got caught years later, and i believe a million dollar fine. But whats a mill when it buys you a Lombardi trophy?MidwestFavreFan said:What did the Broncos do that year?cheesey said:You know.........like the Broncos did the year they beat us. They got to keep the Lombardi trophy, even though they got caught. It SHOULD have been stripped from them and given to say, oh, a team that DID'NT cheat, the PACKERS.
I know........10 years have gone by. But it just BURNS me that they got away with it. Whats to stop teams from cheating if in the end nothing serious is done about it?cheesey said:They cheated on the salary cap, so that they could keep Terrel Davis and Elway. They got caught years later, and i believe a million dollar fine. But whats a mill when it buys you a Lombardi trophy?MidwestFavreFan said:What did the Broncos do that year?cheesey said:You know.........like the Broncos did the year they beat us. They got to keep the Lombardi trophy, even though they got caught. It SHOULD have been stripped from them and given to say, oh, a team that DID'NT cheat, the PACKERS.
Let it go cheesey...let it go.
I know........10 years have gone by. But it just BURNS me that they got away with it. Whats to stop teams from cheating if in the end nothing serious is done about it?4thand26 said:cheesey said:They cheated on the salary cap, so that they could keep Terrel Davis and Elway. They got caught years later, and i believe a million dollar fine. But whats a mill when it buys you a Lombardi trophy?MidwestFavreFan said:What did the Broncos do that year?cheesey said:You know.........like the Broncos did the year they beat us. They got to keep the Lombardi trophy, even though they got caught. It SHOULD have been stripped from them and given to say, oh, a team that DID'NT cheat, the PACKERS.
Let it go cheesey...let it go.
It would be nice. Unfortunatly it's too late for teams that have been cheated in the past.cheesey said:I know........10 years have gone by. But it just BURNS me that they got away with it. Whats to stop teams from cheating if in the end nothing serious is done about it?4thand26 said:cheesey said:They cheated on the salary cap, so that they could keep Terrel Davis and Elway. They got caught years later, and i believe a million dollar fine. But whats a mill when it buys you a Lombardi trophy?MidwestFavreFan said:What did the Broncos do that year?cheesey said:You know.........like the Broncos did the year they beat us. They got to keep the Lombardi trophy, even though they got caught. It SHOULD have been stripped from them and given to say, oh, a team that DID'NT cheat, the PACKERS.
Let it go cheesey...let it go.
Maybe this new commish will make harsher penalites for teams to..
Every nfl team cheats...from draft day to the superbowl. Two nfl players specifically stated this today on Sirius nfl radio. Pats got sloppy and were caught. The same thing happened to the Vikes against the Giants in 2000 with a 41-0 blowout. The Vikes coaching staff even brought it up to the nfl and nothing was ever done. Nfl players take unprescribed painkillers to get through the superbowl...they take steroids to make them stronger and faster...they screw with the opposing teams radio equipment etc. etc. Every team has done it! Nascar drivers cheat, baseball players cheat. Hockey and basketball players cheat...it's the world we live in today. This is not an isolated incident. The Patriots are the dynasty of this decade and nothing should take it away. If they start playing poorly at this point without stealing defensive plays (something are high school football teams did every Friday night by the way) then I would make a big deal about it. But at this point it holds little significance.
There's an old saying which goes..."If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."
BearDown! said:But, just because every team does it, doesn't make it right.
Yup..........and i wish the consequences fit the crime. It would STOP the cheaters if they actually had harsh punishments. But as long as it amounts to a slap on the wrist, cheating will continue. Just like every other crime that isn't punished harshly enough.BearDown! said:But, just because every team does it, doesn't make it right.
If you cheat in Nascar, you're docked points and you/crew members could be suspended. In baseball, you could be suspended. In NCAA, your records are erased and titles vacated. My coach was caught recruiting players last year and was forced to resign. We were banned from the playoffs for two years, but got it appealed.
You see, you can cheat, but by choosing to cheat you accept all consequences.
IMO If the Patriots have to pay fines and loose draft picks that is just a slap on the wrist to them. I think the punishment should be so much more, like the team can play this season but the games dont count. What about stripping the title from them the years that they won the trophy? Noone knows how many years they cheated, was it in the years they won the Superbowl? If so they shouldnt be the champs. If they choose to just punish them with draft picks and fines big deal then other organizations will cheat to. The penalty should be so much stiffer then that.
Patriots are cheaters!!!!!
I disagree!!!! I think he's an "incomplete" moron!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:ESPN never fails to amaze. Skip commented that Belichick should receive a 2 game suspension, which I thought was allright. Sean Salisbury goes on to say that is way too harsh of punishment and the whole ordeal has been overblown.
:chalflag: I want to challenge the ruling on the field that Sean Salisbury is not a complete moron.
Thats true..........there is no way to prove they did it then. (Although i sure wouldn't put it past them) You could look at game tapes and see if their little friend is on the sideline. Of course that still wouldn't PROVE anything, but it would let us know that it PROBABLY was happening.Heatherthepackgirl said:IMO If the Patriots have to pay fines and loose draft picks that is just a slap on the wrist to them. I think the punishment should be so much more, like the team can play this season but the games dont count. What about stripping the title from them the years that they won the trophy? Noone knows how many years they cheated, was it in the years they won the Superbowl? If so they shouldnt be the champs. If they choose to just punish them with draft picks and fines big deal then other organizations will cheat to. The penalty should be so much stiffer then that.
Patriots are cheaters!!!!!
While taking away the trophys sounds nice, what real proof does anyone have they did it then??? Do they have tape of the SB years showing they did it? If not they cant do that
The NFL sent out letters saying DO NOT TAPE and since NE looks like they did that, harshest thing I can see is , take away their win over the JETS..