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packerfan1245 said:kewlbeans said:MidwestFavreFan said:Zombieslayer said:Ryan Grant
packerfan1245 said:kewlbeans said:MidwestFavreFan said:Zombieslayer said:Ryan Grant
favre2driver said:packerfan1245 said:kewlbeans said:MidwestFavreFan said:Zombieslayer said:Ryan Grant
MarkAshton said:And finally, you seem very confident in your nice young running back Ryan Grant. Well, he was the 19th best rusher in the NFL this year with 956 yards gained. Of those 956 yards, 418 came in four games - two against Detroit, Oakland and Denver. In the other 12 games of the year he average (DRUMROLL) 44.83 yards/game. OUCH.
Wow, talk about skewing facts. Sure he played 15 games, but he only had 6 carries in his first 5 games for 27 yards. So subtract the games where he wasn't even part of the gameplan and you get 929 yards for 10 games, just under 100 ypg.
That is the Brian Grant we all know and love.
MarkAshton said:And finally, you seem very confident in your nice young running back Ryan Grant. Well, he was the 19th best rusher in the NFL this year with 956 yards gained. Of those 956 yards, 418 came in four games - two against Detroit, Oakland and Denver. In the other 12 games of the year he average (DRUMROLL) 44.83 yards/game. OUCH.
Wow, talk about skewing facts. Sure he played 15 games, but he only had 6 carries in his first 5 games for 27 yards. So subtract the games where he wasn't even part of the gameplan and you get 929 yards for 10 games, just under 100 ypg.
That is the Brian Grant we all know and love.
MarkAshton said:And finally, you seem very confident in your nice young running back Ryan Grant. Well, he was the 19th best rusher in the NFL this year with 956 yards gained. Of those 956 yards, 418 came in four games - two against Detroit, Oakland and Denver. In the other 12 games of the year he average (DRUMROLL) 44.83 yards/game. OUCH.
Wow, talk about skewing facts. Sure he played 15 games, but he only had 6 carries in his first 5 games for 27 yards. So subtract the games where he wasn't even part of the gameplan and you get 929 yards for 10 games, just under 100 ypg.
That is the Brian Grant we all know and love.
Oops. My bad. You know what they say about stats....
That changes the picture. It looks like he only played substantial time in...9 games. In those 9 games he gained 872 yards for an average of 4.95/carry. That excludes the last Detroit game where he gained 57 yards on 6 carries. I'm sure he's going to be a good back.
But I stand by my overall point which is that the Packers rushing offense was weak at the early part of the season when they played better teams and stronger at the latter part of the season when they, on average, played weaker teams. Also, as a team, they gained 25% of their total yards in two games against Oakland and Detroit. Put those games aside and they go from being an average rushing team to below average.
This thread shows why it's a mistake to only look at stats. Most every RB will produce more againest poorer D teams, not just Ryan. Next year, when TT will, IMO, bolster our OL, Ryan Grant will make believers of ALL critics. He hits D players as hard as they hit him. He doesn't do it with smoke and mirrors. For once, RB is not the primary need for the Packers. The OL is, IMO.
gopackgo said:MarkAshton said:And finally, you seem very confident in your nice young running back Ryan Grant. Well, he was the 19th best rusher in the NFL this year with 956 yards gained. Of those 956 yards, 418 came in four games - two against Detroit, Oakland and Denver. In the other 12 games of the year he average (DRUMROLL) 44.83 yards/game. OUCH.
Wow, talk about skewing facts. Sure he played 15 games, but he only had 6 carries in his first 5 games for 27 yards. So subtract the games where he wasn't even part of the gameplan and you get 929 yards for 10 games, just under 100 ypg.
That is the Brian Grant we all know and love.
Oops. My bad. You know what they say about stats....
That changes the picture. It looks like he only played substantial time in...9 games. In those 9 games he gained 872 yards for an average of 4.95/carry. That excludes the last Detroit game where he gained 57 yards on 6 carries. I'm sure he's going to be a good back.
But I stand by my overall point which is that the Packers rushing offense was weak at the early part of the season when they played better teams and stronger at the latter part of the season when they, on average, played weaker teams. Also, as a team, they gained 25% of their total yards in two games against Oakland and Detroit. Put those games aside and they go from being an average rushing team to below average.
all about da packers said:I'd like to send a little love to the Full Backs.
Korey hall was a rookie, and I think it is fair to say that it took him a while to get his feet under him, seeing he was a converted LB. Kuhn has also come on as of late, doing a great job blocking and helping open holes for Grant.
It seems that ever since Ryan Grant made himself the #1 RB, Hall and Kuhn have been making some great blocks.
So I'd say it's not just one single thing that led to our improved running game. The O-line came together, their ability to open some holes improving by leaps and bounds as the season wore on, our young FBs emerging as better blockers, and Ryan Grant becoming familiar enough with our O to the point where he could get extended reps (due to injury to other RBs).
all about da packers said:I'd like to send a little love to the Full Backs.
Korey hall was a rookie, and I think it is fair to say that it took him a while to get his feet under him, seeing he was a converted LB. Kuhn has also come on as of late, doing a great job blocking and helping open holes for Grant.
It seems that ever since Ryan Grant made himself the #1 RB, Hall and Kuhn have been making some great blocks.
So I'd say it's not just one single thing that led to our improved running game. The O-line came together, their ability to open some holes improving by leaps and bounds as the season wore on, our young FBs emerging as better blockers, and Ryan Grant becoming familiar enough with our O to the point where he could get extended reps (due to injury to other RBs).
I'd second this. Watching Grant run, I noticed you'd every once in awhile see one of our FBs flatten a LB. The chemistry between the 3 is amazing. It's like they're brothers. They know exactly where the other will be and who needs to be taken out.