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<blockquote data-quote="Sunshinepacker" data-source="post: 559797" data-attributes="member: 9033"><p>Curious why Graham has to help his owner (who is already obscenely wealthy) make more money? I mean, that's all a "take less for the team" contract really is, a way for the owner of the team to make even more money. Why do the players always have to be the ones to take the paycut? Why can't the owner hold the GM more responsible for not signing poor contracts that prevent the team from signing Graham?</p><p></p><p></p><p>QB play does have an impact in how a player performs but why should good players be penalized because they have good QBs? Your comments on Jennings show a curious disregard for the historical facts about Jennings. He played with a TERRIBLE quarterback the entire year in Minnesota yet he wasn't too terribly far off his production from 2011, when he played with a GREAT quarterback (he played fewer games in 2011 but only had 5 fewer targets since the Packers throw the ball so much more). Tom Brady is a pretty good quarterback yet he looked downright pedestrian last year with Gronk out of the lineup.</p><p></p><p>The Saints have, reportedly, offered Graham a deal that averages $9.5m per year. That would place him, salary wise, behind Dwayne Bowe and Mike Wallace, two guys who both recently signed deals and two guys who I'm sure most would say are not the caliber of player that Graham is. Just because Graham is labeled a TE doesn't mean his talent, and compensation, should ONLY be compared to other tight ends. Graham's contract should be based on what teams are willing to pay and I can guarantee that teams would be willing to pay more for Graham than Mike Wallace or Dwayne Bowe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunshinepacker, post: 559797, member: 9033"] Curious why Graham has to help his owner (who is already obscenely wealthy) make more money? I mean, that's all a "take less for the team" contract really is, a way for the owner of the team to make even more money. Why do the players always have to be the ones to take the paycut? Why can't the owner hold the GM more responsible for not signing poor contracts that prevent the team from signing Graham? QB play does have an impact in how a player performs but why should good players be penalized because they have good QBs? Your comments on Jennings show a curious disregard for the historical facts about Jennings. He played with a TERRIBLE quarterback the entire year in Minnesota yet he wasn't too terribly far off his production from 2011, when he played with a GREAT quarterback (he played fewer games in 2011 but only had 5 fewer targets since the Packers throw the ball so much more). Tom Brady is a pretty good quarterback yet he looked downright pedestrian last year with Gronk out of the lineup. The Saints have, reportedly, offered Graham a deal that averages $9.5m per year. That would place him, salary wise, behind Dwayne Bowe and Mike Wallace, two guys who both recently signed deals and two guys who I'm sure most would say are not the caliber of player that Graham is. Just because Graham is labeled a TE doesn't mean his talent, and compensation, should ONLY be compared to other tight ends. Graham's contract should be based on what teams are willing to pay and I can guarantee that teams would be willing to pay more for Graham than Mike Wallace or Dwayne Bowe. [/QUOTE]
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