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<blockquote data-quote="tonytokes" data-source="post: 94272" data-attributes="member: 555"><p><strong>Re: TT vs MS</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. I never thought about that.</p><p></p><p>Why? </p><p></p><p>Because TT building a winner doesn't just happen because TT wants to build a winner. Every team in the NFL wants to build a winner but not every player in the league wants to play for every team.</p><p></p><p>We were a team that went 4-12 with a Hall of Fame quarterback. If I'm a free agent with high character who thinks less about money and more about winning and I have no idea if Favre is coming back (hrm, could they be even WORSE than a 4-12 team?) then I'm not too excited about going to basically Canada to play football in a city that is under 100,000 people, freezing cold and no nightlife whatsoever. </p><p></p><p>Yeah, I think Pickett was a good signing. Woodson is washed up and was looking for a paycheck, could care less about winning and definitely knows his performance wont warrant him having to play out the rest of his contract before a cut and well, Manual is just an average starter (if that), making above average money. I believe, though, that TT put some effort into it but I don't know, not getting a ton of bites from guys who want to win.</p><p></p><p>I own a business where I do a lot of "signing" or recruiting if you will and being in a city like Atlanta, there is a lot of competition and a lot of companies promising a lot of things. Often times these companies can offer more immediate rewards as far as salary, contributions, work experience and generally a more rewarding/successful environment. Sometimes not, but it's pretty obvious how winning factors into what I do and if you up the ante and change thousands to millions, I can't imagine those factors diminishing at all. </p><p></p><p>GMs are judged by how well their team does. Period. There often isnt much time to wait around and build a team in your image as you say. I think signing Robinson, Picket, Manual and Woodson just goes to show that. Compared to most NFL teams, we had to be in the top 30% of FA activity but there isn't a lot of TT PP image people in that lineup. Just desperate attempts to show that he's trying to build a winner right now.</p><p></p><p>Now I dont think his priorities are in place as evidenced by his lack of attention to the front line but effort was put in for some changes whether you agree with the moves or not. </p><p></p><p>My whole point is really that no one wants to play for a loser. No one. Only a certain type of character will go to whoever gives them the biggest paycheck and I also think that player isn't often one who contributes most to a winning attitude on a team. Add to the mix that there was no idea that Favre was coming back and losing looked even more inevitable with winning pushed back even more years. </p><p></p><p>Would you have called TT back? Take away my Packer fandom and I can matter of factly tell you that I wouldnt.</p><p></p><p>2c.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tonytokes, post: 94272, member: 555"] [b]Re: TT vs MS[/b] No. I never thought about that. Why? Because TT building a winner doesn't just happen because TT wants to build a winner. Every team in the NFL wants to build a winner but not every player in the league wants to play for every team. We were a team that went 4-12 with a Hall of Fame quarterback. If I'm a free agent with high character who thinks less about money and more about winning and I have no idea if Favre is coming back (hrm, could they be even WORSE than a 4-12 team?) then I'm not too excited about going to basically Canada to play football in a city that is under 100,000 people, freezing cold and no nightlife whatsoever. Yeah, I think Pickett was a good signing. Woodson is washed up and was looking for a paycheck, could care less about winning and definitely knows his performance wont warrant him having to play out the rest of his contract before a cut and well, Manual is just an average starter (if that), making above average money. I believe, though, that TT put some effort into it but I don't know, not getting a ton of bites from guys who want to win. I own a business where I do a lot of "signing" or recruiting if you will and being in a city like Atlanta, there is a lot of competition and a lot of companies promising a lot of things. Often times these companies can offer more immediate rewards as far as salary, contributions, work experience and generally a more rewarding/successful environment. Sometimes not, but it's pretty obvious how winning factors into what I do and if you up the ante and change thousands to millions, I can't imagine those factors diminishing at all. GMs are judged by how well their team does. Period. There often isnt much time to wait around and build a team in your image as you say. I think signing Robinson, Picket, Manual and Woodson just goes to show that. Compared to most NFL teams, we had to be in the top 30% of FA activity but there isn't a lot of TT PP image people in that lineup. Just desperate attempts to show that he's trying to build a winner right now. Now I dont think his priorities are in place as evidenced by his lack of attention to the front line but effort was put in for some changes whether you agree with the moves or not. My whole point is really that no one wants to play for a loser. No one. Only a certain type of character will go to whoever gives them the biggest paycheck and I also think that player isn't often one who contributes most to a winning attitude on a team. Add to the mix that there was no idea that Favre was coming back and losing looked even more inevitable with winning pushed back even more years. Would you have called TT back? Take away my Packer fandom and I can matter of factly tell you that I wouldnt. 2c. [/QUOTE]
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