Are the Vikings/Bears for real?

I hate to be "that guy" but the Vikes just beat the Lions on Sun.

If you forgot about Detroit, (The city as well as the team.) who could blame ya?

Well considering he has not given up a sack yet, pretty good. I assume you mean Khalil, not Smith, who they moved back into the first round for. Who by the way is doing pretty well himself.

One thing to keep in mind is every season since 2002 a team has gone from last to first in a division in one offseason.
Remains to be seen who it is this year but if it was the Vikings that would certainly qualify as a suprise.

Their one blemish so far is losing to Adam Vinatieri with 30 seconds left after Luck got them in long FG range. I do admit I did not want OT though.

I'll say this. They have the ability to come back in games they seem done in. They are a spirited little bunch this year.

Well considering the second half of the season MN has 5 of 8 games that are division oppenents. The Bears and Packer twice and the Lions one more time. So essently what you are saying is the Vikings won't win against the Bears and Packers.

I think the Bears are pretty good. But, the Packers seem to have Cutler's number so that lowers their stock with me.

Come on, FF, even when the Bears win a game, they STILL SUCK.

Proclaim it now.

Hopefully he will continue to improve???

el Guapo, exactly who are you rooting for here?

Sorry - I don't root for other teams to suck. That may not be the mantra on a fan forum, but I'd rather see strong divisional rivals that give us good games versus blow outs. So yes, I would like to see Ponder and the Vikings improve...but still lose to the Packers

Not a bad attitude at all to have. Also having a strong division this year might help the Packers improve more for the postseason.

That F word in my name (The other one besides "Forget") is the reason I can't stand the Vikes more than Da Bears.

I'm willing to compromise if you are.
I'll just go ahead and post this video.

I know having a good division makes the Pack doing well look even better, but as far as the Bears and Vikings go in my opinion the worse the better haha

It doesn't even matter!
If the Bears are "for real" and have a winning season and make it into the playoffs.
Jay Cutler CAN NOT beat the Packers.
and the Packers have ALL the 'Mo vs the Bears...
not worried about them at all.

Vikes. AD is still a beast.
Def is good.
But their QB is unproven. Sure he looks like a gamer... but again.... not worried about them.
at all.

I'll just worry about whether the Packers are for real.

I can agree with your last statement. I'm certainly not going to predict that the Vikes will win the North.

I look at wins and losses in this way: the losing team typically looks bad and you have to decide whether that was by their own doing or because of the other team. When I see the opponent playing at their highest level, I don't just chalk it up to the losing team playing a bad game. I chalk it up to the winning team making the losing team look bad. In this case, the Vikings made the 49ers look bad. Could the niners have played better. I'm sure of it. As you said though, it's all a matter of opinion which I can agree to.

I don't think the Vikings are there yet, but they're getting better. Kalil and Harrison Smith look like real good rookies for them. I'm not sure Ponder will ever be a top tier QB, but I could see him becoming a better version of Alex Smith, maybe even a Schaub or Flacco level, which certainly isn't bad. The one thing I wonder about is how long Adrian Peterson can be an elite RB. He's 28 or 29 if I'm not correct and just came off a nasty injury. He may have 2-3 good years left but after that I dunno.

Peterson still does not look to be up to par. Can't say i blame him with what happened to his knee. He has lost that ankle snapping cut ability that he used to have and he has not "powered" through defenders since coming back. I have noticed he goes down easier and he chooses to run out of bounds rather than give that signiture stiff arm to the face and mash some dude to the turf. I don't know if he will ever be the same after his injury, that was some serious stuff he went through. He wont be as dominant, be will still be a factor. I think the biggest weapon the vikes have is percey harvin, he is a beast.......as long as the doctors have solved his migrane issues......he will continue to be a nightmare for other teams.

Some big plays does not a playoff team make. Vikings had some big plays but that kind of thing cannot sustain you through a season or especially the playoffs. There is absolutely 0% chance the Vikings are going to win big this year. Chicago has all the pieces but as long as you have an idiot as the face of your franchise I think it's difficult. They deserve Cutler, couldn't have happened to a more worthy fanbase.