Actually Glad Aaron Bombed.

Finally some sanity

yes you guys do! hehe

I think some of you miss understand what my original post was saying, or perhaps, I did not do a good enough job of posting it.

I did not want him to fail or get bombed and never get another chance. I think it is a good thing that he did... It was a lesson. I certainly did not want him to break his foot. In most cases you have to fail in life to succeed, and that is certainly true in the NFL as well.

The key is for almost every young QB to fail faster. Look at Troy Aikman's first year, Look at Smith for the 49ers... He has failed in biblical proportions but now is starting to jell.

The fact he had the opportunity to fail, when the team was already out of the game was good, and the fact it would stop a QB challenge was icing on the cake. I am a big fan of A-Rod. I think it would be the wrong thing to do to draft another first round QB. The KID HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE.

If you call yesterday a chance the way the Pats were blowing past our O-Line... Then you saw a different game than I did.

All of that is moot now though... The kid is done failing faster this year.

R.P.

So, he's great the whole season, has one bad game because he's injured, and "the great one's skills are diminishing" :cane: You make no sense, dude.

I guess Rodgers was under pressure too, but Favre wasn't somehow behind the same rookie o-line?

Amazing.

:beersign:

I think some of you miss understand what my original post was saying, or perhaps, I did not do a good enough job of posting it.

I did not want him to fail or get bombed and never get another chance. I think it is a good thing that he did... It was a lesson. I certainly did not want him to break his foot. In most cases you have to fail in life to succeed, and that is certainly true in the NFL as well.

The key is for almost every young QB to fail faster. Look at Troy Aikman's first year, Look at Smith for the 49ers... He has failed in biblical proportions but now is starting to jell.

The fact he had the opportunity to fail, when the team was already out of the game was good, and the fact it would stop a QB challenge was icing on the cake. I am a big fan of A-Rod. I think it would be the wrong thing to do to draft another first round QB. The KID HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE.

If you call yesterday a chance the way the Pats were blowing past our O-Line... Then you saw a different game than I did.

All of that is moot now though... The kid is done failing faster this year.

R.P.

Hmmm. If you accuse someone of not making sense, you should probably make sense yourself.

Favre has not been great "the whole season." Trom said he's been inconsistent, which he has been. I didn't read the word "diminishing" anywhere in trom's post either. My God man, read the post before you try to insult.

That's why they call me the king, baby.

No, in another post he stated that Favre does not give the Packer's the best chance of winning out of the GB QB's. Try and keep up.

Who does? A third string D(Ingle-berry) from Furman?

That's laughable. Oh you're the King alright.

I just don't want to say of what in a family oriented forum such as this.

King of Dancing? I've been called that before, but not because of my extensive football IQ; it was because I can bust a mean samba.

And attacks on my Ingle Martin will not be tolerated. If I wasn't such an advocate for peace and harmony I'd give you a stern talking to.

Seeing INgle martin is Sanity? He scored what on the wonderlic? 15?
He's a horse w/no brain

Wow, that's just stupid and inaccurate. He got a 30 on the wonderlic.

Nice try though.

Thats when I stopped reading. He hasn't been great all season, not even close. He has definitely had his favre moments, the moments that remind me(personally) why i love the guy, but 'great all season?' no.

He's not exactly the most tactful poster here

Look at the sh*t Favre's been given to work with out there.

He's been given sh*t by TT, and he's turning it into Hamburger.

Take a bite.

What do you expect?

Miracles? :wtf: :kickcan:

Driver is ****? Jennings is ****? The rock-solid O-Line is ****?

I don't follow

Why all the bitching? No one expected teh Packers to threaten for the Super Bowl or truly the playoffs. These loss's and mistakes were EXPECTED.

Pick yourself up, dust off and get ready to cheer for your team on Monday. This team is making progress and at times they take steps back. It is EXPECTED. Teams don't go from 4 - 12 and become a dynasty every year. It's getting better. Pay attention and you will notice it too.

An old coach of mine had a dilemma. The most popular guy on the team was also the QB. But over the course of the season it became clear he wasn't cutting the mustard, and his backup was making plays. The starter was shaken up in a game and the backup came in and propelled the team forward and we won.

Who started the next week? The former backup.

The coach called everyone together and said something enlightening.

"We're here to win football games, not win popularity contests".

In my view, regardless of Brett Favre's popularity or history, if he continues to play like he did against New England, someone else should get a shot.

Aaron Rodgers didn't do any better in his time, contrary to the story above.

But Packer fans have to realize that the goal is to win games.

Quite honestly, while the focus of Sunday's game was on the offense, it was the defense that gave up 35 points, not the offense. The offense didn't help, but you have a sense where this team is with home losses to Chicago and New England that produced zilch.

Brett(when he's on) gives the Packers a chance to score points, but the core problem of this team remains its defense.

"If they can't score, they can't beat you"- that also was said by my former coach.

While I agree with the INTENT of you message...to look at this team at 4-6 with home shutout losses to New England and Chicago as 'getting better' might very well be stretching it a bit.

The Seahawks game will be a good measure. Seattle is beat up and struggling, but it will be a measuring stick against a pretty good team in the same conference. To date, they've beaten the Lions, Dolphins, Cardinals and Vikings(check their records) and they've lost to Chicago, New Orleans, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Buffalo and New England.

That is the real measuring stick whether this team is improving.

Rock solid O-Line Yared? :rotflmao:

Wow. That's really stretching it with three rookies, and since it's been established that Favre has been making them look better than they are by his quick reads and release. That won't happen with Aaron Rodgers or anyone else in there.

And Net, maybe you should get TT to talk to your old coach about fielding a winning team!

It's gonna be a long season. :beersign:

You have to remember when our OL does well then Favre does well to, otherwise he has to get the ball out quickly and then bad things happen. When Favre is on the whole team is on, when something fails like the OL and the DF we dont have a chance. Again this dont always fall on the QB.

I have a feeling we are gonna see J.T. O'Sullivan back in green and gold. :rubeyes:

yeah so much promise. Like I said in my signature, dont believe in high expectations.

Before you blindly through out stupid remarks you should really know your stuff.

In week 10 that Packers OL that you seem to have so much disdain for ranked 2nd in the league in sack rate. They gave up 11 sacks with a adjusted rate of 2.7%. The league average is 21 sacks given up at a 6.8% rate. They seem to be doing pretty well for themselves, agreed?

As of week 10 they ranked 8th in run blocking with 4.45yards per getting stuffed only 25% of the time.

Who cares if they're starting rookies? Talent is all that matters and that's what they have.

thank you for saving me a reply yared.

and favre is saving them by quick throws? its called the west coast offense....jesus christ, kid.

yes this is true... we need to think of the future and just like everyone says the o-line will develope in to a grate one with experience i belive this is the same for QB. Cant judge AR on 1 game against the Pats...

I'll always be here for you