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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 390428" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>Yeah, I've watched the Patriots-Dolphins game, and Brady made several great long throws. I think you're right, he wasn't as good but is greatly improving. It's, like I said, nitpicking on a first ballot Hall of Fame.</p><p></p><p>As for choking, I'm not one to believe it in Hall of Famers. I think there are areas of the QBs' game that makes them less successful in the playoffs, when the competition is closer and defenses tend to play their best.</p><p></p><p>In Manning's case, IMHO it's his decision making in the face of pressure. I think it's a proven method, and one that really good defenses can use, particularly the zone-blitz defenses (also why Manning struggles against 3-4 defenses, that and the confusion at post-snap reads, which he struggles a bit, not like Eli though). Because his team usually doesn't have a running game to compliment him, and his defense is never a shutdown defense but a bend-down-break, he ends up "choking". Manning doesn't have the arm nor is mobile enough to be able to make plays when pressured.</p><p></p><p>In Marino's case, it's his work ethic. Like I said above, he wasn't a big preparation guy, and when he played teams like the 49ers, it came to bite him in the ***. You can't just play for feel against great defenses, no matter how talented you are, and Marino is the most natural QB ever.</p><p></p><p>In Favre's case, it was his tendency to throw into QUINTUPLE coverage. Again, despite Favre having one of the greatest arms of all time, and being able to make amazing throws, you cannot win in the playoffs against great teams by forcing the ball...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 390428, member: 1429"] Yeah, I've watched the Patriots-Dolphins game, and Brady made several great long throws. I think you're right, he wasn't as good but is greatly improving. It's, like I said, nitpicking on a first ballot Hall of Fame. As for choking, I'm not one to believe it in Hall of Famers. I think there are areas of the QBs' game that makes them less successful in the playoffs, when the competition is closer and defenses tend to play their best. In Manning's case, IMHO it's his decision making in the face of pressure. I think it's a proven method, and one that really good defenses can use, particularly the zone-blitz defenses (also why Manning struggles against 3-4 defenses, that and the confusion at post-snap reads, which he struggles a bit, not like Eli though). Because his team usually doesn't have a running game to compliment him, and his defense is never a shutdown defense but a bend-down-break, he ends up "choking". Manning doesn't have the arm nor is mobile enough to be able to make plays when pressured. In Marino's case, it's his work ethic. Like I said above, he wasn't a big preparation guy, and when he played teams like the 49ers, it came to bite him in the ***. You can't just play for feel against great defenses, no matter how talented you are, and Marino is the most natural QB ever. In Favre's case, it was his tendency to throw into QUINTUPLE coverage. Again, despite Favre having one of the greatest arms of all time, and being able to make amazing throws, you cannot win in the playoffs against great teams by forcing the ball... [/QUOTE]
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