Winnipeg, your point is well taken, but allow me to explain why I believe the Packers need to make a change. This team has looked awful coming out of the preseason for the last four years. We've started really slow I believe for three years in a row now. The thing is, he inherited a team with quite a bit of talent and offensive fire power. His poor choices of draft choices on the defensive side of the ball and his failure to secure adequate backups in the offensive line are keys to the failure of this team. However, his decision to keep bad coaches who haven't been able to make players better has been part of his problem. His lack of ability to motivate has hurt his team in preparation. They just come out flat every game. I think Mike Sherman the person is probably a really good man, but Mike Sherman the coach is and has been awful.