Why I Love The 2026-2027 Green Bay Packers

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Hello everyone, I decided to post this now because I just made my largest future's bet on OUR Green Bay Packers winning The Super Bowl at +2000.

I am not a homer when it comes to gambling, this isn't a blind faith gamble. I truly believe in this year's team more than most Packer's teams in the past ( I'm 35). I just wanted to post why, start a little more conversation, and gauge where other people are.


* I believe Jordan Love is a difference making QB. When Jordan is playing his A level game, he's only behind Josh Allen. This is something I don't think would be debatable if MLF let him go more, and threw more in the red zone to pad his stats more.


* If healthy I think Watson, Golden, Kraft and Reed will be the best 1-4 pass catchers in the league. The bulk numbers won't show it in all likelihood, but I am projecting Watson, Kraft and Golden to all be alphas, with Reed being a top tier complimentary guy. We're going to have an embarrassment of riches there.

* There will be a regression towards the mean for the offensive line. Last year's line was one of the worst we've had in many many years. I am not expecting them to return to elite status ( although I do think it's in the realm of possibilities) but they will be better than last year.

Rasheed Walker was awful last year. Awful. I am pretty confident Jordan Morgan to be a significant upgrade over him this year.

Tom's health is a big one, but if he is healthy he's going to be much better than he was last year. Rhyan year two at C full time could be a slight improvement, Belton year two should be an improvement, and while I didn't like the Banks signing, they said he was battling injuries last year which he hasn't done before. Hopefully he bounces back.

* This will be the best pass rush from The Green Bay Packers we have seen in decades.

Parsons is our best pass rusher since Reggie White. ( sorry Clay) He's a HOF player entering his prime.

I'm betting on LVN. Health permitted, he's going to be a force. A problem for teams on his own.

I love the depth behind them. Sorrell looked incredible in his opportunities last year, and is working his *** off with Michah. DDS/Oliver/Cox are three guys with juice behind them. As situational pass rushers, I feel they're going to make their fair share of plays.

Wyatt and Hargrave at DT is going to wreak havoc on the inside. With Michah getting the extra attention, these dude's are going to f'n eat.

I think Cooper is going to be deployed more as a pass rusher and is ready for superstardom.


* I think they've done enough at CB not to be a dumpster fire. St. Juste and Cisse gives the CB more depth as well as some upside. If St. Juste replicates what he did last year, it's a slam dunk signing. I love the makeup of Cisse and think he's going to be a plus starter at the end of the year. This unit still isn't as good as you want it, but with the elite pass rush and safety play, I think they're going to be more than fine.


A lot of things need to go right to win a SB. I think this GB Packer team has multiple ways to beat you and is going to win it all this year if healthy.
 
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I think Rasheed kinda hit his ceiling. He was ok ish but at LT we need to keep looking to improve.

Much of the season will be based on how quickly our new coaching staff on Defense acclimates. I still don’t think we used Cooper properly last season and his productivity took a dip. If Franklin is anywhere between his 2024-2025 seasons we’re going to be good against the run. Plus Hargraves adds a much needed pressure on the D middle.
 

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Hello everyone, I decided to post this now because I just made my largest future's bet on OUR Green Bay Packers winning The Super Bowl at +2000.

I am not a homer when it comes to gambling, this isn't a blind faith gamble. I truly believe in this year's team more than most Packer's teams in the past ( I'm 35). I just wanted to post why, start a little more conversation, and gauge where other people are.


* I believe Jordan Love is a difference making QB. When Jordan is playing his A level game, he's only behind Josh Allen. This is something I don't think would be debatable if MLF let him go more, and threw more in the red zone to pad his stats more.


* If healthy I think Watson, Golden, Kraft and Reed will be the best 1-4 pass catchers in the league. The bulk numbers won't show it in all likelihood, but I am projecting Watson, Kraft and Golden to all be alphas, with Reed being a top tier complimentary guy. We're going to have an embarrassment of riches there.

* There will be a regression towards the mean for the offensive line. Last year's line was one of the worst we've had in many many years. I am not expecting them to return to elite status ( although I do think it's in the realm of possibilities) but they will be better than last year.

Rasheed Walker was awful last year. Awful. I am pretty confident Jordan Morgan to be a significant upgrade over him this year.

Tom's health is a big one, but if he is healthy he's going to be much better than he was last year. Rhyan year two at C full time could be a slight improvement, Belton year two should be an improvement, and while I didn't like the Banks signing, they said he was battling injuries last year which he hasn't done before. Hopefully he bounces back.

* This will be the best pass rush from The Green Bay Packers we have seen in decades.

Parsons is our best pass rusher since Reggie White. ( sorry Clay) He's a HOF player entering his prime.

I'm betting on LVN. Health permitted, he's going to be a force. A problem for teams on his own.

I love the depth behind them. Sorrell looked incredible in his opportunities last year, and is working his *** off with Michah. DDS/Oliver/Cox are three guys with juice behind them. As situational pass rushers, I feel they're going to make their fair share of plays.

Wyatt and Hargrave at DT is going to wreak havoc on the inside. With Michah getting the extra attention, these dude's are going to f'n eat.

I think Cooper is going to be deployed more as a pass rusher and is ready for superstardom.


* I think they've done enough at CB not to be a dumpster fire. St. Juste and Cisse gives the CB more depth as well as some upside. If St. Juste replicates what he did last year, it's a slam dunk signing. I love the makeup of Cisse and think he's going to be a plus starter at the end of the year. This unit still isn't as good as you want it, but with the elite pass rush and safety play, I think they're going to be more than fine.


A lot of things need to go right to win a SB. I think this GB Packer team has multiple ways to beat you and is going to win it all this year if healthy.
The last line I had seen was +1400 for the Pack. Like +3500 for the Vikings. But it changes from now until September. Now make a bet on either the Jets, Cardinals, or Titans. You could make a bundle. LOL!
 
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I think Rasheed kinda hit his ceiling. He was ok ish but at LT we need to keep looking to improve.

Much of the season will be based on how quickly our new coaching staff on Defense acclimates. I still don’t think we used Cooper properly last season and his productivity took a dip. If Franklin is anywhere between his 2024-2025 seasons we’re going to be good against the run. Plus Hargraves adds a much needed pressure on the D middle.
I thought Rasheed looked really good at times, but last year was not it.

That was one of the weirder thigns to me last year, the way Cooper was used.Frankly, I wasn't too impressed by Halfley much last year as well.
 
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The last line I had seen was +1400 for the Pack. Like +3500 for the Vikings. But it changes from now until September. Now make a bet on either the Jets, Cardinals, or Titans. You could make a bundle. LOL!
It's still 2 on FanDuel!

My biggest bet of my life is going to be Miami under 5.5 wins -170
 

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I thought Rasheed looked really good at times, but last year was not it.

That was one of the weirder thigns to me last year, the way Cooper was used.Frankly, I wasn't too impressed by Halfley much last year as well.

To me Rasheed Walker is a guy who is limited athletically but makes the most of what he has...He worked hard here and was fundamentally sound, and the Pack was able to get a lot of mileage out of a seventh-round draft pick. Carolina decided to pay him around 10 million for one year, so I'm glad he got paid.
 
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I thought Rasheed looked really good at times, but last year was not it.

That was one of the weirder thigns to me last year, the way Cooper was used.Frankly, I wasn't too impressed by Halfley much last year as well.
This is where I believe an increase in experience will help our D.

Gannon paired with D Pass game coordinator Babich is an immediate upgrade in experience. These guys both had successful careers in Philly and Buffalo. Plus we just added some juice on D. We lost 2 veterans in Gary and Enagbare. Yet we gained Hargrave and St Juste so to me that’s a relative wash in experience or impact. Maybe reshuffled deck but still a wash. Yet now we add in Oliver, McClellan, Dennis Sutton, Domani Jackson and Brandon Cisse. These are all slightly to much better depth options to use in a rotational aspect.
 
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To me Rasheed Walker is a guy who is limited athletically but makes the most of what he has...He worked hard here and was fundamentally sound, and the Pack was able to get a lot of mileage out of a seventh-round draft pick. Carolina decided to pay him around 10 million for one year, so I'm glad he got paid.
Oh ya, Sheed was a good hit for a 7th rounder. He played a lot of good snaps for us. He's just someone we can/will improve on.

This is where I believe an increase in experience will help our D.

Gannon paired with D Pass game coordinator Babich is an immediate upgrade in experience. These guys both had successful careers in Philly and Buffalo. Plus we just added some juice on D. We lost 2 veterans in Gary and Enagbare. Yet we gained Hargrave and St Juste so to me that’s a relative wash in experience or impact. Maybe reshuffled deck but still a wash. Yet now we add in Oliver, McClellan, Dennis Sutton, Domani Jackson and Brandon Cisse. These are all slightly to much better depth options to use in a rotational aspect.
I disagree with this part a lot.

Enagbare is a okay 3rd rusher.

Gary was bad last year, especially the last half of the year. Hargrave will be way better than him. Losing Gary is such a addition by subtraction.

St. Juste, we'll see. If he's what he is last year, he's a significant upgrade in impace.
 
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Oh ya, Sheed was a good hit for a 7th rounder. He played a lot of good snaps for us. He's just someone we can/will improve on.


I disagree with this part a lot.

Enagbare is a okay 3rd rusher.

Gary was bad last year, especially the last half of the year. Hargrave will be way better than him. Losing Gary is such a addition by subtraction.

St. Juste, we'll see. If he's what he is last year, he's a significant upgrade in impace.
I think Gary is being viewed a little low value wise there. He’s an above average Pass rusher averaging 8+ sacks a year. At minimum he’s losing Preston smith type impact.

While he probably did not live up to. 12 overall (14?) He’s still a + Starter. The reason we likely moved on is about $$. He’s not hurting our D It’s more about next man up mentality. LVN needs to be THAT guy along with Micah. This is about freeing Lukas now and at cheaper $. We invested $40mil annual + a 13 overall it’s time. We don’t need to be spending $20mil+ $10Mip annual on a :3rd to 4th edge.
 

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Not a bad bet but stopped reading after the WR claim......best 1-4.... lololololololol
You have 3rd best QB in division, if Kyler struggles......
 
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I think Gary is being viewed a little low value wise there. He’s an above average Pass rusher averaging 8+ sacks a year. At minimum he’s losing Preston smith type impact.

While he probably did not live up to. 12 overall (14?) He’s still a + Starter. The reason we likely moved on is about $$. He’s not hurting our D It’s more about next man up mentality. LVN needs to be THAT guy along with Micah. This is about freeing Lukas now and at cheaper $. We invested $40mil annual + a 13 overall it’s time. We don’t need to be spending $20mil+ $10Mip annual on a :3rd to 4th edge.
Maybe I misread. I'll look fondly over Rashan's tenure as a Packer. He was really solid, made a lot of key plays for us.

I think he's cooked though. He went 7 games with Michah without a sack. Went another 3 without one, 10 total.

The worst part is how slow he looked. It looked like his athleticism is gone. I think he's going to be a negative asset this year and really believe that his snaps will be much better used by LVN/Sorrell/Oliver/Cox/DDS
 
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Oh ya, Sheed was a good hit for a 7th rounder. He played a lot of good snaps for us. He's just someone we can/will improve on.


I disagree with this part a lot.

Enagbare is a okay 3rd rusher.

Gary was bad last year, especially the last half of the year. Hargrave will be way better than him. Losing Gary is such a addition by subtraction.

St. Juste, we'll see. If he's what he is last year, he's a significant upgrade in impace.
At minimum losing Gary is arguably like losing Preston smith type impact. Good run defender also but yes, he’s more of a Robin role to a Batman like Micah.

While he probably did not live up to. 12 overall (14?) He’s still a + Starter. The reason we likely moved on is about $$. He’s not hurting our D It’s more about next man up mentality. LVN needs to be THAT guy along with Micah. This is about freeing Lukas now and ar lesser cap impact.
 
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Not a bad bet but stopped reading after the WR claim......best 1-4.... lololololololol
You have 3rd best QB in division, if Kyler struggles......
I don’t think GB has the best 1-4, but I do think they are into the Top 10 in WR talent depth. Reed or Watson haven’t yet showed past a Solid WR2+ but that’s about to change imo.

Imo if we voted with each GM and each had to select a North QB on pure production at this point of career Caleb would get 3rd most votes imo. If he did get 2nd it’s only based on he’s got 2 cheap years. Then they’d scrap his A He’s very scrappy and probably the best QB CHICAGO has had after a dirtbag full of QB’s across decades. Caleb has 2 more seasons and then he’ll get a much worse OL and weapons combined will falter and it’ll be on him to raise his entire O.
He’s feasting off a surrounding cast of elite weapons and that goes away in 2028 when the $$ hits. You’ve lost 2 years Chicago will need to hit on all cylinders in 2026. Even more now because Drew Dalman retiring out if the blue forced a needs pick at Center on a player ranked well into RD3, there goes a RD2 pick that could’ve improved the roster. Instead a Rookie has to match a Probowl player or go all pro to improve. It spells regression at a time when GB just locked and loaded at iDT.
Then the Chicago OL loses a very solid LT in Ozzy Trapilo in postseason and as GB found out that’s the worst possible time to lose an OL because they end up missing most or all of the following season. Replacing a LT is a big deal these days and you don’t just find them and pluck them off trees. While it’s not David Bakhtiari level, Ozzy was was found in the top 10 of LT regularly and there’s very little positive you can say about preparing musical chairs at LT. Ozzy was the best Rookie in Chicago in 2025 and now an huge ??
I haven’t even got into DJ Moore. THAT was a bigger loss than his stat line. That guy gives opponent DC nightmares when a big play is needed in crunch. That’s not a good thing for Chicago. Not that I wish that on anyone but it is what it is. Chicago didn’t improve off an all star cast last year. It’s called leaning negative from 2025 and when you are in tuned it makes it all the more concerning.

It all looks pretty spending $100Mil annual in FA until you lose a key player or start dropping OL. Thats where Draft and develop teams inch forwards with growth while teams like ,Chicago scramble to slow blood loss.

Chicago very well might take a step backwards at both OL + DB this season after gambling away all the starters and trying to patch 40% of the #1 ranked OL. Expecting a bunch of novice talent to go all pro or improve off last years previous veteran experience is not a wise recipe when you need short term pop. We speak from experience as we lost Bakhtiari before an NFC game and have lost our Center recently. Join the Club!
 
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Oh ya, Sheed was a good hit for a 7th rounder. He played a lot of good snaps for us. He's just someone we can/will improve on.


I disagree with this part a lot.

Enagbare is a okay 3rd rusher.

Gary was bad last year, especially the last half of the year. Hargrave will be way better than him. Losing Gary is such a addition by subtraction.

St. Juste, we'll see. If he's what he is last year, he's a significant upgrade in impace.
Enagbare was the one who sacked Caleb at Lambeau. It will be remembered because of how elusive he is.
 

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I don’t think GB has the best 1-4, but I do think they are into the Top 10 in WR talent depth. Reed or Watson haven’t yet showed past a Solid WR2+ but that’s about to change imo.

Imo if we voted with each GM and each had to select a North QB on pure production at this point of career Caleb would get 3rd most votes imo. If he did get 2nd it’s only based on he’s got 2 cheap years. Then they’d scrap his A He’s very scrappy and probably the best QB CHICAGO has had after a dirtbag full of QB’s across decades. Caleb has 2 more seasons and then he’ll get a much worse OL and weapons combined will falter and it’ll be on him to raise his entire O.
He’s feasting off a surrounding cast of elite weapons and that goes away in 2028 when the $$ hits. You’ve lost 2 years Chicago will need to hit on all cylinders in 2026 and I’m talking starting 8-4++ or better or things will get very ugly down the stretch. Chicago lucked out catching GB all injury torn up or playing 2nd string players for 2 of our last 4 meetings and you still could barely beat us. It took multiple missed FG type thing. That’s embarrassing. thats highly unlikely to happen this year. Might even be Chicago OL or WR/TE that get that dose of unhappiness this season the days of lucking out in every close game fade like a vapor in this league.
Also DJ Moore was a bigger loss than his stat line. That guy gives opponent DC nightmares when a big play is needed. That’s not a good thing for Chicago. Not that I wish that but you have zero cap matter if fact you’re negative if you don’t restructure someone pronto. It all looks pretty spending $100Mil annual in FA until about?? 2027

Chicago very well might take a small step backwards at DB this season after gambling away all the starters. Expecting a bunch of novice talent to go all pro is not a wise decision. It won’t bode well against guys like Watson or Reed or Kraft or Golden etc. that won’t bode well against most teams really imo.
I think the Bears like their young receivers and TE. They came through last year during a period of team injuries. I do not think losing Moore will cause them to miss a beat. Their QB and their offensive scheme will get it done as long as their offensive line can run block and give Caleb a little time.

Remember that the Bears have been hapless for a long time. They historically were jinxed every year against us the same way the Packers were jinxed against teams like the Niners, Seahawks, and Giants. The Bears losses to us included a tipped FG that was makeable, a Cutler injury in the Championship game, a blown 20 point lead with a 4th quarter take it to the house by Cobb, a 4th and 8 bomb to Cobb to win the division, and a last minute launch to Jordy to set up a Mason winner. And then opening the 2019 season with a 10-3 loss at home after winning the division.
So, if you are Bear fans, you are thinking that the tide may be turning and the Rodgers era is over. If you are Packer fans, you are singing that song: The Bears Stiil Suck.
 
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I think the Bears like their young receivers and TE. They came through last year during a period of team injuries. I do not think losing Moore will cause them to miss a beat. Their QB and their offensive scheme will get it done as long as their offensive line can run block and give Caleb a little time.

Remember that the Bears have been hapless for a long time. They historically were jinxed every year against us the same way the Packers were jinxed against teams like the Niners, Seahawks, and Giants. The Bears losses to us included a tipped FG that was makeable, a Cutler injury in the Championship game, a blown 20 point lead with a 4th quarter take it to the house by Cobb, a 4th and 8 bomb to Cobb to win the division, and a last minute launch to Jordy to set up a Mason winner. And then opening the 2019 season with a 10-3 loss at home after winning the division.
So, if you are Bear fans, you are thinking that the tide may be turning and the Rodgers era is over. If you are Packer fans, you are singing that song: The Bears Stiil Suck.
Sure. It might surprise some people that I actually like some of the draft picks Chicago took. Sam Roush at TE. CB, Malik Muhammad was on my draft board regularly (Earlier RD4).

That said Zavion Thomas is more of a solution at KR than WR at this point. Sam Roush is a good all around TE but if it’s not 13 Personnel he’s more likely to see Teams in 2026.

DJ Moore might not have led that WR group, but he still logged 1,500 yards and 12 TD’s across 2024-25. Speedy Thomas is not a firm solution at WR3 but I’m sure will get opportunities. I’m much happier with Thomas over Moore though either way.

For me its did each team improve, decline or remain the same at WR. It’s a hard argument to say Chicago improved (not suggesting you said that just from a Chicago fan perspective). WR backed up a slight tick. TE depth improved. OL backed up and I’d be shocked if they don’t go from their #1 ranking in 2025 to noticeable backing up some.
 
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Sure. It might surprise some people that I actually like some of the draft picks Chicago took. Sam Roush at TE. CB, Malik Muhammad was on my draft board regularly (Earlier RD4).

That said Zavion Thomas is more of a solution at KR than WR at this point. Sam Roush is a good all around TE but if it’s not 13 Personnel he’s more likely to see Teams in 2026.

DJ Moore might not have led that WR group, but he still logged 1,500 yards and 12 TD’s across 2024-25. Speedy Thomas is not a firm solution at WR3 but I’m sure will get opportunities. I’m much happier with Thomas over Moore though either way.

For me its did each team improve, decline or remain the same at WR. It’s a hard argument to say Chicago improved (not suggesting you said that just from a Chicago fan perspective). WR backed up a slight tick. TE depth improved. OL backed up and I’d be shocked if they don’t go from their #1 ranking in 2025 to noticeable backing up some.
I think the biggest factor in Chicago is the development of the QB and the continuity of the 2nd year of a new regime in which guys like Luther Burden will get better. That alone can produce 10-11 wins. Last year in Week 1 of MNF the Bears blew a game they had won due to double digit yellow flags. Come Weeks 15-18 we saw a much improved Bear team which was scary. Not enough to go to the SB but very capable of competing and winning its division. And our division has never been this competitive among 4 teams in a long, long time.
 
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Chicago is about to learn that winning a Division comes with picking later in the draft and when players get cut. Division winners also tend to see schedule difficulty increase. They have to improve slightly just to stay even with the prior season.

The Lions learned very quickly in 2025 how losing a Probowl Center (Ragnow retirement) impacts the OL and quickly. It’s very rare to lose a Probowl Center and just not skip a beat. Even with a good RD2 add at Center it can take a year or two to acclimate at the Pro level. Then your young Star Left Tackle goes down in Postseason.That’s a double whammy that will be hard to bounce back from in 2026. Chicagos #1 ranked OL was the Engine that made that train perform. Even a slight regression into a top 5-10 ranking will be felt. Especially when opponents like GB restocked the shelves with help upfront iDL.
 
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In some ways Chicago is reshuffling their OL similar to how the Lions did it in 2025. GB is also in that boat, although the Packers aren’t trying to hold a #1 OL ranking. GB is trying to get back into the top 1/2 of the league or at least improve. Also GB is more of a continuation from 2025 except at LT. Yet at least we have a Day 1 athlete trying to meet or exceed Rasheed’s play. Walker did not look great overall in 2025, so it’s a lower bar.
 
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The 1-4 is a lofty claim, but I really think Golden and Watson are going to be dudes. Matthew Golden is going to be one hell of a WR. A full season of Watson is going to be soon. Mix that in with an elite Kraft and a very good Reed and it's one of the top groups.
 

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Chicago is about to learn that winning a Division comes with picking later in the draft and when players get cut. Division winners also tend to see schedule difficulty increase. They have to improve slightly just to stay even with the prior season.

The Lions learned very quickly in 2025 how losing a Probowl Center (Ragnow retirement) impacts the OL and quickly. It’s very rare to lose a Probowl Center and just not skip a beat. Even with a good RD2 add at Center it can take a year or two to acclimate at the Pro level. Then your young Star Left Tackle goes down in Postseason.That’s a double whammy that will be hard to bounce back from in 2026. Chicagos #1 ranked OL was the Engine that made that train perform. Even a slight regression into a top 5-10 ranking will be felt. Especially when opponents like GB restocked the shelves with help upfront iDL.
I think the losses on the oline can be mitigated by Caleb being another year along in the system with all his weapons.
I see a lot of 2wr 2 te sets were if the safety drops.....we pass.
If the safety stays back....we run.
 
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I think the losses on the oline can be mitigated by Caleb being another year along in the system with all his weapons.
I see a lot of 2wr 2 te sets were if the safety drops.....we pass.
If the safety stays back....we run.

I think there is upside with Chicago's offense, Caleb year 3, Year 2 in Johnson's system. But what do you think about the significant things going against them such as

1. The Turnovers regressing to the mean

2. The less than 1 TD score games equalling out more

3. Caleb's incredible low % big time completions regressing to the mean.

Those 3 things would scare the hell out of me if I were Chicago.

I am betting on Caleb Williams getting over 4k yards, but I was hoping their win total would be set at 10.5 so I could buy it to 11.5 and be comfortable.
 

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Chicago is one of those teams, and knowing @Calebs Revenge he even knows it, that many statistics (some mentioned above) point towards major regression to more normal levels and that easily could mean 4 or so more losses without blinking. Now some of that could be offset if Caleb can play just a tiny bit more in the first half of games like he does in the second half games....statistically the Bears are an enigma of a team I don't dare try to predict....you could tell me you placed a $100 bet that they'd win 6 or fewer games and I'd be as confident with that as I would saying 13 or more....
 
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