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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 370567" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I don’t think the league’s existence was dependent upon the Packers’ existence. Halas was forming the league regardless of what happened with the franchise in Green Bay and started a league the year before the Packers joined. IMO Red Grange joining the league in 1925 was more important for the popularity and continued existence of the league than any individual franchise. Then the 1958 Colts/Giants title game, dubbed the "greatest game ever" ushered in the NFL's popularity on TV. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I’m not sure if you are kidding about other teams' season ticket purchasers or not. If not, other than Packers fans located around the country, I don’t think fans of other teams buy tickets looking forward to <em>potential</em> games against the Packers. And only the extremely foolish ones would buy season tickets for that purpose, since they could wait and buy tickets only for games vs. the Packers. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">As to why the Lions draw as they do, I think it has mostly to do with the following:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Season: Record; Finish in the division</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’01: 2-14; last</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’02: 3-13; last</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’03: 5-11; last</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’04: 6-10; 3rd</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’05: 5-11; 3rd</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’06: 3-13; last</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’07: 7-9;  3rd</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’08: 0-16; last </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’09: 2-14; last</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">’10: 6-10; 3rd</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">No playoffs for a decade, the worst GM in the history of the league for 8 of those years, and their best season of the last ten? 2 games under .500. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>

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