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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 641983" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p>A couple of you have misunderstood my point about Lombardi. It was not that yelling at players would work today or that times haven’t changed. Here’s what I wrote: “People are people and human nature hasn’t changed in 60 years. Humans are humans, right? Of course yelling at corporate employees like Lombardi yelled at his players isn’t appropriate but <strong>some need tough love and some need encouragement with most in between those extremes. If you attempt to motivate all of them in the same way, you aren’t a good leader IMO</strong>.” This was in response to the notion that only positive reinforcement works as a motivator. Lombardi was a master psychologist, using both positive and negative reinforcement. You wrote that negative reinforcement doesn’t work in today’s business world. IMO that is full of ignorance and incorrect. BTW the statement was aimed directly at what you posted, not at corporate America. And if you think the term “middle management” is demeaning, that’s on you. <em>Sure, that’s why you used your “magic” word</em>. Again, post where I used that word. <strong>You’re becoming the king of the straw man argument and exaggeration</strong>. You tell Patriotplayer90 he doesn’t “believe leadership matters…” when he wrote no such thing. You attempt to put the word, “magical” in my mouth twice and can’t back it. You post, “you think running people in football is totally unrelated to other aspects of life”, when I posted no such thing. And Again, you made up the idea of my posting ‘business isn’t worthy or up to the standards of pro football” out of whole cloth. And BTW, several sources list David M. Zaslav of Discovery Communications as the highest paid CEO in 2014 with total compensation, including stock and stock options, at about $156M. I doubt you work daily with the CEO of the company that employs you, but even if you do: Aaron Rodgers has signed three NFL contracts totaling over $200M. He’ll receive all of that if his current contract is in force in 2019. He’ll turn 36 that year and may sign another lucrative contract. His endorsement deals also are worth millions. So what you typed, in addition to perhaps showing your obsession with money and status is another example of you exaggerating. BTW, is business only "worthy" in your opinion because of the amount of money people make?</p><p></p><p>If you could step back and look at this objectively, what would you say about a poster who frequently uses straw man arguments and exaggerates? BTW, this is off topic and just a suggestion based upon what you wrote in post #195: Since you already have a bachelors degree, I suggest you work on an MBA, that would likely impact your career much more than a bachelors degree in business.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 641983, member: 4300"] A couple of you have misunderstood my point about Lombardi. It was not that yelling at players would work today or that times haven’t changed. Here’s what I wrote: “People are people and human nature hasn’t changed in 60 years. Humans are humans, right? Of course yelling at corporate employees like Lombardi yelled at his players isn’t appropriate but [B]some need tough love and some need encouragement with most in between those extremes. If you attempt to motivate all of them in the same way, you aren’t a good leader IMO[/B].” This was in response to the notion that only positive reinforcement works as a motivator. Lombardi was a master psychologist, using both positive and negative reinforcement. You wrote that negative reinforcement doesn’t work in today’s business world. IMO that is full of ignorance and incorrect. BTW the statement was aimed directly at what you posted, not at corporate America. And if you think the term “middle management” is demeaning, that’s on you. [I]Sure, that’s why you used your “magic” word[/I]. Again, post where I used that word. [B]You’re becoming the king of the straw man argument and exaggeration[/B]. You tell Patriotplayer90 he doesn’t “believe leadership matters…” when he wrote no such thing. You attempt to put the word, “magical” in my mouth twice and can’t back it. You post, “you think running people in football is totally unrelated to other aspects of life”, when I posted no such thing. And Again, you made up the idea of my posting ‘business isn’t worthy or up to the standards of pro football” out of whole cloth. And BTW, several sources list David M. Zaslav of Discovery Communications as the highest paid CEO in 2014 with total compensation, including stock and stock options, at about $156M. I doubt you work daily with the CEO of the company that employs you, but even if you do: Aaron Rodgers has signed three NFL contracts totaling over $200M. He’ll receive all of that if his current contract is in force in 2019. He’ll turn 36 that year and may sign another lucrative contract. His endorsement deals also are worth millions. So what you typed, in addition to perhaps showing your obsession with money and status is another example of you exaggerating. BTW, is business only "worthy" in your opinion because of the amount of money people make? If you could step back and look at this objectively, what would you say about a poster who frequently uses straw man arguments and exaggerates? BTW, this is off topic and just a suggestion based upon what you wrote in post #195: Since you already have a bachelors degree, I suggest you work on an MBA, that would likely impact your career much more than a bachelors degree in business. [/QUOTE]
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