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<blockquote data-quote="IPBprez" data-source="post: 1950" data-attributes="member: 51"><p>Outrageous - any videos? (ouch if he says yes)</p><p></p><p>About this "<em>tradition</em>" --- IF, and I DO mean IF..... it is (or has) really been going on... then in this day and age "gentlemen" ( I use that loosely at this point) - wouldn' all of you "think" (work on this) that.....</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">someone would have a damn camcorder?</span></p><p></p><p>C'mon - if Dungy says it - then it's the gospel? Oh really...</p><p>His position in life doesn't grant him instant total credibility.</p><p>I'm on several boards and so far NO ONE has stepped forward - NOT EVEN VIKINGS FANS - with any actual evidence... </p><p>None that I've seen as yet... maybe you have a "secret stash" next to your maryjane pipe?</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think it may have "some" reality to it - but not like the visual Dungy laid out... by no means.... And, to boot, why all of a sudden is Dungy steppng up to defend a Team of his from so long ago - I NEVER hear him defending the Bucs which such an attitude.... curious that. I would have thought differently since he outright claims the two best places in the World to watch a football game are: </p><p>1) Lambeau Field & 2) Arrowhead Stadium.</p><p></p><p>I would infer that we could have 3 or 6 Packer fans playing a stunt versus 70,893 "other" Cheeseheads never doing that ever.... the phrase "one bad apple" comes to mind... and let's be real here Vikes, I mean 'c'mon' -- there's no purple-people-eaters out there being "eagles-vicious" to the Packers Players or the PackerBackers? Hardly! And look what the Vikings Players do when they play at Lambeau.. they "trash" the Visitor's Locker room like it's a Van Halen stay at some hotel before a gig.. that event really was low-class.</p><p></p><p>What we have here - is an ESPN attempt to gloat over a small market team getting the losing side of a game which meant the loser stays home (playoffs) - ESPN, especially the Chris Berman Show do NOT like the Packers because they go against the political correctness that only Owners should 'OWN' football teams.. NEVER the fans... if they thought otherwise, then they'd entertain conversations leading "other" fans to want to do the same as us PackerBackers have done for dozens of generations now - and I ask you this - just how many other Teams have over 60,000 people waiting in line for Season Tickets, BTW...? If you watch ESPN and count the timespan used to describe a game, the Packers 'always' get less air time - and they go out of their way to glorify whomever gets the better of the Packers... they'll rehash Jerry Jones over and over... but the Packers? Sorry, we have to go to commercial... the BIAS is very telling.</p><p></p><p>Ever since the first time, the Press asked Brett if he thought he was gonna retire... ESPN has been on this bandwagon and promoting it with great ferocity and they willl not stop until Brett steps down... How many years has it been now? How could such a great QB "waste" his life <em>with the Packers</em>? He should have left to go the Niners or somewhere else.... Do you ever see them harping on Testeverde? No! What about any of the other "over 35" players in the NFL - Jerry Rice, and so on - they don't even go there... hardly at all... but with Brett it's a constant barrage every year - "Damn, aren't you gonna retire, for god's sake?" Over & Over all the friggin' time.</p><p></p><p>You do the math - ESPN consistently thinks they're in charge of what we, the fans, should be thinking on all counts of sports, (brainwashing / indoctrination) ..especially when it comes to NFL football. Personally, I never waste energy on the Chris Berman show any more - why bother - it's really NOT all that great to begin with.... "Pardon the Interruption" (PTI) is waaaay better and tons more honest.... along with what Ron Jaworski points out... there's no need for Chris Berman OR that ID-10-T "Tom Jackson" -- both of those guys are PR nuts, NOT reporters... they're more worried about who's hangin in the locker room with them than they are about real sports reporting... I don't like Cris Collinsworth all that much, but I'd put him in that Chair - straight away!</p><p></p><p>Prime example? </p><p></p><p>"Donovan McNabb is just as good, if not better, than Brettt Favre" - Tom Jackson</p><p></p><p>Hardly - we saw that in the playoffs... "My ribs hurt Coach, take me out okay?"</p><p>McNabb's no <em>IRONMAN</em> - he's a chunkysoup commercial waitin to be aired. How many straight starts in NFL games has he had? Nah, he's no Brett Favre, only wishes he could be.</p><p></p><p>Okay I've "vented" a few... SO WHERE'S THE VIDEO, VIKES? HUH?</p><p>You point it out and we'll discuss it further... otherwise, even DUNGY's word is suspect and needs to step up with proof.</p><p></p><p>Oh, one more thing.... </p><p></p><p>IF you like ESPN, that's your business and I don't judge "you" over it - </p><p>this is just.... IMHO!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IPBprez, post: 1950, member: 51"] Outrageous - any videos? (ouch if he says yes) About this "[i]tradition[/i]" --- IF, and I DO mean IF..... it is (or has) really been going on... then in this day and age "gentlemen" ( I use that loosely at this point) - wouldn' all of you "think" (work on this) that..... [size=7]someone would have a damn camcorder?[/size] C'mon - if Dungy says it - then it's the gospel? Oh really... His position in life doesn't grant him instant total credibility. I'm on several boards and so far NO ONE has stepped forward - NOT EVEN VIKINGS FANS - with any actual evidence... None that I've seen as yet... maybe you have a "secret stash" next to your maryjane pipe? Personally, I think it may have "some" reality to it - but not like the visual Dungy laid out... by no means.... And, to boot, why all of a sudden is Dungy steppng up to defend a Team of his from so long ago - I NEVER hear him defending the Bucs which such an attitude.... curious that. I would have thought differently since he outright claims the two best places in the World to watch a football game are: 1) Lambeau Field & 2) Arrowhead Stadium. I would infer that we could have 3 or 6 Packer fans playing a stunt versus 70,893 "other" Cheeseheads never doing that ever.... the phrase "one bad apple" comes to mind... and let's be real here Vikes, I mean 'c'mon' -- there's no purple-people-eaters out there being "eagles-vicious" to the Packers Players or the PackerBackers? Hardly! And look what the Vikings Players do when they play at Lambeau.. they "trash" the Visitor's Locker room like it's a Van Halen stay at some hotel before a gig.. that event really was low-class. What we have here - is an ESPN attempt to gloat over a small market team getting the losing side of a game which meant the loser stays home (playoffs) - ESPN, especially the Chris Berman Show do NOT like the Packers because they go against the political correctness that only Owners should 'OWN' football teams.. NEVER the fans... if they thought otherwise, then they'd entertain conversations leading "other" fans to want to do the same as us PackerBackers have done for dozens of generations now - and I ask you this - just how many other Teams have over 60,000 people waiting in line for Season Tickets, BTW...? If you watch ESPN and count the timespan used to describe a game, the Packers 'always' get less air time - and they go out of their way to glorify whomever gets the better of the Packers... they'll rehash Jerry Jones over and over... but the Packers? Sorry, we have to go to commercial... the BIAS is very telling. Ever since the first time, the Press asked Brett if he thought he was gonna retire... ESPN has been on this bandwagon and promoting it with great ferocity and they willl not stop until Brett steps down... How many years has it been now? How could such a great QB "waste" his life [i]with the Packers[/i]? He should have left to go the Niners or somewhere else.... Do you ever see them harping on Testeverde? No! What about any of the other "over 35" players in the NFL - Jerry Rice, and so on - they don't even go there... hardly at all... but with Brett it's a constant barrage every year - "Damn, aren't you gonna retire, for god's sake?" Over & Over all the friggin' time. You do the math - ESPN consistently thinks they're in charge of what we, the fans, should be thinking on all counts of sports, (brainwashing / indoctrination) ..especially when it comes to NFL football. Personally, I never waste energy on the Chris Berman show any more - why bother - it's really NOT all that great to begin with.... "Pardon the Interruption" (PTI) is waaaay better and tons more honest.... along with what Ron Jaworski points out... there's no need for Chris Berman OR that ID-10-T "Tom Jackson" -- both of those guys are PR nuts, NOT reporters... they're more worried about who's hangin in the locker room with them than they are about real sports reporting... I don't like Cris Collinsworth all that much, but I'd put him in that Chair - straight away! Prime example? "Donovan McNabb is just as good, if not better, than Brettt Favre" - Tom Jackson Hardly - we saw that in the playoffs... "My ribs hurt Coach, take me out okay?" McNabb's no [i]IRONMAN[/i] - he's a chunkysoup commercial waitin to be aired. How many straight starts in NFL games has he had? Nah, he's no Brett Favre, only wishes he could be. Okay I've "vented" a few... SO WHERE'S THE VIDEO, VIKES? HUH? You point it out and we'll discuss it further... otherwise, even DUNGY's word is suspect and needs to step up with proof. Oh, one more thing.... IF you like ESPN, that's your business and I don't judge "you" over it - this is just.... IMHO! [/QUOTE]
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