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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PackerfaninCarolina" data-source="post: 900233" data-attributes="member: 9364">Oh I don't discount having important quality players on special teams to boost the performance at all.  And I don't say that either TT or Gute has been on top of the game in that department.  But you gotta consider two things:1. Most of the problems I see with the unit year in and year out are related to guys being undisciplined either in kick coverage, or in some cases kick returns or punt protection.  Even if we swapped out all or most the players fulfilling these roles, failing to crack the whip on this stuff in practice, or for that matter failing to change the approach in practice won't change any results.2. Who have we had coaching our ST units over the last 10-15 years or so who actually has put good results on the field with other teams?  As far as I know, nobody.I definitely think the evidence of us failing to bring in top notch ST coaches and that leading to low ranked output is overwhelming.</blockquote>

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