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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 378251" data-attributes="member: 4300">Ivo610 is correct, the Packers didn't lose a game by more than 4 points and not only that, they never trailed by more than 7 points in any game. But I wouldn't even get that far until I asked your friend, 'What statistics or analysis did you use to arrive at that conclusion?' (The burden of supporting his view is on him - until he does there's nothing to refute except an unsubstantiated opinion.)  Then I would ask him which team he supports and if it's a decent team (not Buffalo), I'd ask if he'd like to wager which team (his or the Packers) finishes with a better record.  Finally I would say, 'Since you believe the Packers were one of the weakest Super Bowl teams ever you must believe they'll miss the playoffs this season as many Super Bowl teams do in the season following their Super Bowl appearance. Would you care to wager that the Packers will miss the playoffs this season?  If he doesn't take either bet, I'd paraphrase Ron Wolf and say, 'Since you can't or won't back up your opinion, it's just a fart in wind to me.'</blockquote>

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