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<blockquote data-quote="porky88" data-source="post: 91219" data-attributes="member: 489"><p>I'm not saying either or.</p><p></p><p>I'm asking TA what he things of that scenario and I still didn't get a definite answer/opinion. </p><p></p><p>I will say If we re-signed Mike Wahle I don't think Thompson would of went out and got Woodson for that kind of money.</p><p></p><p>I'll also add if we signed Wahle, we still don't make the playoffs and we still win 6 games at tops. </p><p></p><p>I have no proof at all. It's a "What if" question but I can give my analysis. Had GB signed LaVar Arrington, they wouldn’t of signed Charles Woodson. That I believe is a fact and I’ve heard that somewhere. I’ll throw Wahle in the same boat and say if we re-signed Wahle a year ago, I don’t think Thompson spends big $$$ on Charles Woodson.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying not signing Wahle was good. I clearly said it was a mistake and Thompson should not get a free pass but I agree with what Bruce said, not signing Wahle shouldn't bring upon Thompson’s dismissal as GM of the Packers.</p><p></p><p>As for the post above yours...</p><p></p><p>What does Ashley Lelie bring too the table that you like so much? He couldn't beat out an aging Rod Smith for a starting job and he has done very little in this league. What makes him so special. What makes him more special than Gardner or Ferguson. He appears to fall in that same boat. An underachiever who has never broke through in the NFL. Atlanta whom just received Lelie via trade, has him listed as their #3 WR and they're in need of a receiver more than Green Bay is. Greg Jennings arguably has had a better camp his rookie year than Lelie has had his entire career.</p><p></p><p>Eric Moulds would of been a poor signing in my opinion as well. He's aging and wanted big money. He signed a nice contract with Houston. In a year or two will Moulds still be producing like he has in the past? I doubt it. He's way past his prime. I would give him a slight upgrade over Ferguson and Gardner but I wouldn't give him the money he was asking for. Maybe if he wanted more of a reasonable deal. Also would a GM be willing to redo Driver’s contract. Again we don’t know but I’ll throw that out and see what others think. I don’t believe Thompson restructures Drivers deal and we have an unhappy WR. I rather pay Driver than Moulds.</p><p></p><p>I'll meet you in between though and say I would of re-signed Mike Wahle but I wouldn't of gone after any WR in this years free agency outside of Terrell Owens. None of them are a difference maker. Would you want that baggage though? We' will never know and I'm sure TO isn't "Packer People" but if you give him a contract with incentives, I'm sure that'll be enough motivation for him to put up the big numbers he does and will do this season. </p><p></p><p>I would of re-signed, Wahle for sure but that didn‘t happen and time has past. I don't expect a Super Bowl this season. I would like one but I don‘t see one. With or without Wahle this year, I don‘t think we have a SB team.. Even with the above scenario TA gave, I don't see a team better than 9-7 there. Right now I see us at 7-9 which would be a decent start too the McCarthy era and something too build off of in my opinion. It’s how he builds off of this team that will define his era as GM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="porky88, post: 91219, member: 489"] I'm not saying either or. I'm asking TA what he things of that scenario and I still didn't get a definite answer/opinion. I will say If we re-signed Mike Wahle I don't think Thompson would of went out and got Woodson for that kind of money. I'll also add if we signed Wahle, we still don't make the playoffs and we still win 6 games at tops. I have no proof at all. It's a "What if" question but I can give my analysis. Had GB signed LaVar Arrington, they wouldn’t of signed Charles Woodson. That I believe is a fact and I’ve heard that somewhere. I’ll throw Wahle in the same boat and say if we re-signed Wahle a year ago, I don’t think Thompson spends big $$$ on Charles Woodson. I'm not saying not signing Wahle was good. I clearly said it was a mistake and Thompson should not get a free pass but I agree with what Bruce said, not signing Wahle shouldn't bring upon Thompson’s dismissal as GM of the Packers. As for the post above yours... What does Ashley Lelie bring too the table that you like so much? He couldn't beat out an aging Rod Smith for a starting job and he has done very little in this league. What makes him so special. What makes him more special than Gardner or Ferguson. He appears to fall in that same boat. An underachiever who has never broke through in the NFL. Atlanta whom just received Lelie via trade, has him listed as their #3 WR and they're in need of a receiver more than Green Bay is. Greg Jennings arguably has had a better camp his rookie year than Lelie has had his entire career. Eric Moulds would of been a poor signing in my opinion as well. He's aging and wanted big money. He signed a nice contract with Houston. In a year or two will Moulds still be producing like he has in the past? I doubt it. He's way past his prime. I would give him a slight upgrade over Ferguson and Gardner but I wouldn't give him the money he was asking for. Maybe if he wanted more of a reasonable deal. Also would a GM be willing to redo Driver’s contract. Again we don’t know but I’ll throw that out and see what others think. I don’t believe Thompson restructures Drivers deal and we have an unhappy WR. I rather pay Driver than Moulds. I'll meet you in between though and say I would of re-signed Mike Wahle but I wouldn't of gone after any WR in this years free agency outside of Terrell Owens. None of them are a difference maker. Would you want that baggage though? We' will never know and I'm sure TO isn't "Packer People" but if you give him a contract with incentives, I'm sure that'll be enough motivation for him to put up the big numbers he does and will do this season. I would of re-signed, Wahle for sure but that didn‘t happen and time has past. I don't expect a Super Bowl this season. I would like one but I don‘t see one. With or without Wahle this year, I don‘t think we have a SB team.. Even with the above scenario TA gave, I don't see a team better than 9-7 there. Right now I see us at 7-9 which would be a decent start too the McCarthy era and something too build off of in my opinion. It’s how he builds off of this team that will define his era as GM. [/QUOTE]
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