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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 905851" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>You're missing the point.</p><p></p><p>The vast majority of the time, the guys who play on the edge (Z. Smith, Gary, P. Smith) <em>are </em>dline guys in function. They have no coverage assignment-- they're rushing the passer. They play much more as even front defensive ends than dropping linebackers. I bet you that they <em>combined </em>for about 200 coverage snaps on the entire season. </p><p></p><p>So if you drafted Collins and he started at off-ball linebacker, he would probably struggle in coverage and it would probably hurt the defense overall. But it would have absolutely nothing to do with Za'Darius or Gary or Preston being listed as "outside linebackers."</p><p></p><p>I also don't know what you're talking about with the bold. The Packers don't bring 5 very often. But you're really struggling to understand that they're not in five man fronts the majority of the time. They're in four. They rarely use odd fronts with 3 interior defensive linemen.</p><p></p><p>Let me illustrate this. The Packers defense in total had about 1010 snaps on the field in 2020. The interior DL guys: Clark, Lowry, Keke, Lancaster, Adams, Wynn, Rush, Harrison TOTALLED 2158 snaps. </p><p></p><p>So what does that tell you? It tells you that this defense lives the majority of time in sets that use 2 interior defensive line (2158 total iDL snaps is 214% of the 1010 snap total). Only a small % of the time are they putting 3 interior defensive linemen on the field at the same time. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/defensive-personnel-analysis-2019" target="_blank">In 2019</a>, they were in "base" defense (3-4) less than 20% of the time. That continued into 2020. They live in nickel and dime, which is, in essence, a 4-2-5 or a 4-1-6.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 905851, member: 12283"] You're missing the point. The vast majority of the time, the guys who play on the edge (Z. Smith, Gary, P. Smith) [I]are [/I]dline guys in function. They have no coverage assignment-- they're rushing the passer. They play much more as even front defensive ends than dropping linebackers. I bet you that they [I]combined [/I]for about 200 coverage snaps on the entire season. So if you drafted Collins and he started at off-ball linebacker, he would probably struggle in coverage and it would probably hurt the defense overall. But it would have absolutely nothing to do with Za'Darius or Gary or Preston being listed as "outside linebackers." I also don't know what you're talking about with the bold. The Packers don't bring 5 very often. But you're really struggling to understand that they're not in five man fronts the majority of the time. They're in four. They rarely use odd fronts with 3 interior defensive linemen. Let me illustrate this. The Packers defense in total had about 1010 snaps on the field in 2020. The interior DL guys: Clark, Lowry, Keke, Lancaster, Adams, Wynn, Rush, Harrison TOTALLED 2158 snaps. So what does that tell you? It tells you that this defense lives the majority of time in sets that use 2 interior defensive line (2158 total iDL snaps is 214% of the 1010 snap total). Only a small % of the time are they putting 3 interior defensive linemen on the field at the same time. [URL='https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/defensive-personnel-analysis-2019']In 2019[/URL], they were in "base" defense (3-4) less than 20% of the time. That continued into 2020. They live in nickel and dime, which is, in essence, a 4-2-5 or a 4-1-6. [/QUOTE]
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