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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 853675" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>Oh dude, where do we even start with you...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Stop looking at their positions. Smith and Smith are defensive linemen. Z-Smith, at 275 is prototypical size for a 4-3 LDE. P-Smith at 255 is a touch light, but well within normal for a 4-3 RDE. We invested heavily here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, first, the ideal is to get all three on the field at the same time in nickel and dime. P-Smith at one edge, while Z-Smith and Gary flip between other edge and 3-T pass rusher. Both have the size to be designated pass rushers at 3T. Hell, in 3rd and long, they could both be DTs.</p><p></p><p>Second, Smith and Smith was a defensive line investment. Get it through your head, OLBs in a 3-4 are defacto linemen. Just squint your eyes and imagine they are in a 3 point stance. </p><p></p><p>If you want interior linemen/defensive tackles, that's fine. But be more precise with your word choice.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like the Gary pick, but he could bust. Or which ever Smith you keep could get a career ending injury. Just terrible thought process all around.</p><p></p><p>And Fackrell. Good lord. He lucked into those sacks. His pressure to sack conversation rate was absurdly high. In other words, he very, very rarely actually threatened the opposing quarterback, but was very good about sealing the deal when he did.</p><p></p><p>He's the opposite of the Gary argument. Gary was disruptive as hell, but rarely sealed the deal with a sack.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I'd rather move Fackrell from OLB to ILB. At least try it. He's the best of the group in pass coverage and plays the run well. Unsure if he's fast enough, but meh. He'd probably be 3rd, if not 2nd best at the position tomorrow if they switched him. More so because of how bad our ILB depth is, but maybe he surprises.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So your argument is that if our Pro-Bowl Caliber NT goes down, our defense as a whole will suffer? </p><p></p><p>Um. </p><p></p><p>NO. $H!T. Tell me more, oh wise one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are balanced, you just don't realize it.</p><p></p><p>We have 2 great edge players and legitimate depth.</p><p></p><p>We have a great NT. Above average in the run game and an excellent rusher, which is rare for the position.</p><p></p><p>Our DT depth hasn't really played up to expectations, but they meet the bare minimum of adequate.</p><p></p><p>Lowry has done fine, but he's not a NT. He's a 3-4 DE/3T tweener. He's done his job and is a poor man's Kampman. </p><p></p><p>Montravius Adams appears to just not have it. Sad, really.</p><p></p><p>Tyler Lancaster hasn't improved from last year. He's cheap, keep him one more year. He *should* be your backup/run-down NT.</p><p></p><p>Before throwing resources at the position, identify the weaknesses. Be Specfic. Don't throw around your perceived lack of investment.</p><p></p><p>They would likely benefit from a run plugger NT. Give Clark a breather between the 20s. Or allow Clark to play more 3T, where he'd likely be even more disruptive.</p><p></p><p>They would likely benefit from a rotational 3T rusher. IF Gary progresses, we have this. If we don't, it's one of the hardest positions to fill.</p><p></p><p>Second large thesis: I've been talking all about defense...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you nuts? We spent a 2nd round pick on Jenkins and signed a very highly priced FA in Turner. In what bizzaro world is this neglect?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 853675, member: 4199"] Oh dude, where do we even start with you... Stop looking at their positions. Smith and Smith are defensive linemen. Z-Smith, at 275 is prototypical size for a 4-3 LDE. P-Smith at 255 is a touch light, but well within normal for a 4-3 RDE. We invested heavily here. Okay, first, the ideal is to get all three on the field at the same time in nickel and dime. P-Smith at one edge, while Z-Smith and Gary flip between other edge and 3-T pass rusher. Both have the size to be designated pass rushers at 3T. Hell, in 3rd and long, they could both be DTs. Second, Smith and Smith was a defensive line investment. Get it through your head, OLBs in a 3-4 are defacto linemen. Just squint your eyes and imagine they are in a 3 point stance. If you want interior linemen/defensive tackles, that's fine. But be more precise with your word choice. I like the Gary pick, but he could bust. Or which ever Smith you keep could get a career ending injury. Just terrible thought process all around. And Fackrell. Good lord. He lucked into those sacks. His pressure to sack conversation rate was absurdly high. In other words, he very, very rarely actually threatened the opposing quarterback, but was very good about sealing the deal when he did. He's the opposite of the Gary argument. Gary was disruptive as hell, but rarely sealed the deal with a sack. Honestly, I'd rather move Fackrell from OLB to ILB. At least try it. He's the best of the group in pass coverage and plays the run well. Unsure if he's fast enough, but meh. He'd probably be 3rd, if not 2nd best at the position tomorrow if they switched him. More so because of how bad our ILB depth is, but maybe he surprises. So your argument is that if our Pro-Bowl Caliber NT goes down, our defense as a whole will suffer? Um. NO. $H!T. Tell me more, oh wise one. We are balanced, you just don't realize it. We have 2 great edge players and legitimate depth. We have a great NT. Above average in the run game and an excellent rusher, which is rare for the position. Our DT depth hasn't really played up to expectations, but they meet the bare minimum of adequate. Lowry has done fine, but he's not a NT. He's a 3-4 DE/3T tweener. He's done his job and is a poor man's Kampman. Montravius Adams appears to just not have it. Sad, really. Tyler Lancaster hasn't improved from last year. He's cheap, keep him one more year. He *should* be your backup/run-down NT. Before throwing resources at the position, identify the weaknesses. Be Specfic. Don't throw around your perceived lack of investment. They would likely benefit from a run plugger NT. Give Clark a breather between the 20s. Or allow Clark to play more 3T, where he'd likely be even more disruptive. They would likely benefit from a rotational 3T rusher. IF Gary progresses, we have this. If we don't, it's one of the hardest positions to fill. Second large thesis: I've been talking all about defense... Are you nuts? We spent a 2nd round pick on Jenkins and signed a very highly priced FA in Turner. In what bizzaro world is this neglect? [/QUOTE]
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