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<blockquote data-quote="porky88" data-source="post: 120698" data-attributes="member: 489"><p>Harris and Woodson have been fairly good. Unless you want to be more specific and say they need a nickel back and a dime back. Or draft future Corners. Then I agree. </p><p></p><p>I agree they need a DE and another DT. Also agree on the safeties although Nick Collins is only in his 2nd year and is probably being affected by Manuel mostly. </p><p></p><p>As for Jim Bates being bad?</p><p></p><p>He's a great coordinator. Maybe not a great Head Coach. Never given the chance but as a coordinator he's never failed to put a team in the top 10 in yards allowed and in Miami his Defenses were some of the elite in the game and produced several Pro Bowlers such as Jason Taylor, Patrick Surtain, Sam Madison, and Zach Thomas.</p><p></p><p>As for your reasoning on him being bad it has no details or facts backing it up. He was offered several jobs this off season as a Defensive Coordinator but wanted to go to Dallas and that would've been the only job he would of taken. Dallas didn't offer him the job so he decided to take the year off. Green Bay is still paying him as Bates and the Packers had to reach on an out of court settlement and there is said to of been some harsh feeling on both sides. The Packers were hoping he would of taken a job but he didn't and now they have to pay him for nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="porky88, post: 120698, member: 489"] Harris and Woodson have been fairly good. Unless you want to be more specific and say they need a nickel back and a dime back. Or draft future Corners. Then I agree. I agree they need a DE and another DT. Also agree on the safeties although Nick Collins is only in his 2nd year and is probably being affected by Manuel mostly. As for Jim Bates being bad? He's a great coordinator. Maybe not a great Head Coach. Never given the chance but as a coordinator he's never failed to put a team in the top 10 in yards allowed and in Miami his Defenses were some of the elite in the game and produced several Pro Bowlers such as Jason Taylor, Patrick Surtain, Sam Madison, and Zach Thomas. As for your reasoning on him being bad it has no details or facts backing it up. He was offered several jobs this off season as a Defensive Coordinator but wanted to go to Dallas and that would've been the only job he would of taken. Dallas didn't offer him the job so he decided to take the year off. Green Bay is still paying him as Bates and the Packers had to reach on an out of court settlement and there is said to of been some harsh feeling on both sides. The Packers were hoping he would of taken a job but he didn't and now they have to pay him for nothing. [/QUOTE]
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