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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Favre&gt;Rodgers259" data-source="post: 908311" data-attributes="member: 10866">Had to sit back and decompress from the Draft before I responded, so bear with me:As much as I want to hate this Draft, I can't, however I do feel we kinda "left some in the tank" between Thursday and Saturday. I think the reason why I want to dislike this Draft is because it doesn't really pack the "Star Power" that we so often get the feeling of from other teams. You look at our Class, and you look at other teams, and it seems like we got the Subaru Outback and other teams went out and got Mustang GTs. We can only hope that one of those might turn out to be a WRX STI. That being said, Gute went out and filled holes. He didn't do what I want, or what any of us really wanted him to do, but he did what he thought was best for the Green Bay Packers; I have to respect that.This Draft really put the 2020 Draft Class on notice. We didn't get a single starter or role player from them last year. Yes, AJ Dillon had a great game against Tennessee, but Jamaal Williams otherwise made sure he was buried on the depth chart. Hanson and Stepaniak, although injured last year might find themselves on the street after camp. Martin, Scott, and to a lesser degree Garvin appear up to the task, but are far from solid just yet. Let's hope Deguara can bounce back from his knee and contribute. Then of course there's Love, who's the ultimate feel good story, until about mid to late season of 2020, that's all we really got from the 2020 Class, feel good stories, let's see what they do this year.Gute also showed with his selections, that if he misses he's willing to move on and swing the bat again. While the 2020 Class pretty much all dealt with injuries, they clearly didn't show enough promise to justify not drafting another 3 OL. Had Ted Thompson still been at the reigns, we'd probably hold on to guys for 3-5 years without pulling the trigger again.Now on to the prospects:Eric Stokes was not on my board(not that it matters), I saw some of the same things in Jackson, but he's got the athleticism that Jackson lacks. I don't see the Ahmad Carroll comparison, because he can cover. However, I wonder if the stuff that he gets away in college and won't in the pros will plague his career. I thought he COULD be available in the 2nd, but not after Picks 42-45. I felt we could possibly have grabbed him around 35-38 and possibly got a 4th or 5th for our trouble, but again Tyson Campbell went 33rd Overall, who while not being as athletic, I felt was a better true cover guy overall. There's no way to figure out how that would have played out, although the next CB didn't go until 44th with the Cowboys selecting Kelvin Joseph. However, Jevon Holland, Richie Grant, and Trevon Moehrig went 36th, 40th, and 43rd Overall respectively. But seeing as they're safeties I can't see the Dolphins, Falcons, and Raiders selecting Stokes there.Josh Myers was the #1 Center on my board (again not that it matters, but it feels good saying it) . Myers faced the toughest competition by far and held up admirably. Landon ****erson was a close 2nd, but no way he passed the Packers Medical Staff muster. This pick was justified because Creed Humphrey went right after Myers at 63rd Overall. My biggest knock on Humphrey is that he's left handed, which sometimes can create  problems for right handed QBs. Plus, there weren't any premium DLs that he faced regularly at Oklahoma, so he was the #2 C on my board. Meinerz, had he played against tougher competition would have been #2 but comes in right at #3; and as it played out didn't last until the 4th Round as I hoped. I think @Dantes or maybe [USER=6578]@tynimiller[/USER] said it best when they liked that the Packers didn't force a Tackle selection, although I was quite puzzled why Stone Forsythe fell so far. Based on how Lucas Patrick played I'd actually prefer if Myers plugged in at RG, leaving only RT, and the interim LT position up for debate.Amari Rodgers, like Jordan Love before him....like the player, just not the pick. However, I liked this more than I did Jordan simply because Gute was literally out of options at WR who would likely make an impact Day 1. Josh Palmer and Dyami Brown went and he was literally it. Both the Texans and the Browns drafted WRs, who were right before the Packers at 89th(Nico Collins) and 91st(Anthony Schwartz), so Gute literally did what he had to.I thought he did give too much up in the trade, but in his post-Day 2 press conference, he reminisced about how on Drafts with Ted....he would tell the guys how he wanted this player or that player. Gute and The Boys would say something to the sort of, "we could do this or that but boss that's way too much". Ted would respond, "I don't think you understand, I want the player." - ie, it didn't matter how much it cost. Gute did exactly that Friday night and after being slightly in angst about it, I fully understand the decision, I actually even love it now.Royce Newman bothers me the most of all the selections. He has below average arm length and he has question marks regarding his strength. To me he is a Guard only prospect and would play RT in an emergency only. I know I mentioned Myers playing RG, but if he does show promise then that would push Myers over to LG, and Elgton would address the LT spot until Bakh was healthy enough to return, leaving only one question mark of RT. It's hard to assess the board, because obviously just one change at a selection would certainly alter the rest that would follow. All we can note was WHO was available after the Packers selection, which caused me to really question why Jaylon Moore wasn't selected instead, who to me offers true versatility. The other possible selection in my opinion would have been Daviyon Nixon to give Kenny Clark some help, but we'll get into that momentarily.Tedarrell Slaton was initially on my board, and I mocked him to the Packers early on in my scouting process. However, I took him off because of his issues with his weight. You'd think the Packers had learned their lesson with players like this, because it never seems to work out for them in the long term. But if he can manage, Slaton has surprising athleticism for a guy his size, which should do wonders for Kenny Clark. I had a chance to talk to Kenny on Thursday night (yes, you read that right), and we talked about his UCLA days where he lined up pretty much everywhere but the secondary. He said in meetings with Barry and the defense overall, that's something they'd like to do more of, but couldn't go into details for obvious reasons. Slaton does just that, his size and athleticism SHOULD demand a double team, which would allow Kenny to maybe get some pressure from a 3T, 4T, and possibly 5T position. That should hopefully allow Kingsley Keke to get into a rhythm and establish some consistent play. But this is all going to depend on Slaton's development and weight management, in addition to how long it takes him to push Lancaster and Rush out of the lineup. It's safe to say Snacks Harrison will be advocating for his services elsewhere at this point.While I do somewhat still consider Slaton a slight reach(yeah I know), you can't really argue too much about picks in the 5th Round and later, I thought his issues with his weight would have pushed him into the 6th, but with how far we pick in each round that's essentially right where his pick value is.Shemar Jean-Charles was the most surprising pick to me, simply because of his height and athleticism question marks, which effectively took him off my board. But he's a very physical corner, and was even a 2nd-Team All-American at lil' ol' Appalachian State. He plays with an edge out there, which should fit in nicely with Jaire, and to a lesser extent Stokes, and King(who is officially now on notice). If you want my opinion about who'll ascend to the roster the fastest, it's Jean-Charles....it's either that or he'll be on the practice squad and then subsequently cut. Stokes will be out there because of his Draft position, but the guy who'll really earn it....who'll show and prove is this guy. My worst projection is maybe he makes a move to FS, which should put some pressure on Redmond to finally make some plays on a consistent basis.Gute really threw me for a loop with his RAS score, but like somebody else said maybe they didn't trust the metrics or maybe Gute is now finally just taking "football players" for once. While athletes are certainly capable of the spectacular, a good football player can usually win out if they play disciplined and take care of the fundamentals of the game.Cole Van Lanen seemed like a throwaway pick to me, as I had him going undrafted. I felt like he could have been the "10th Pick" as being a Green Bay native and former Badger, if there was anyone who would have been at the front of the line for an UDFA signing, it would have been the Packers for Van Lanen. Trey Smith, who's history of blood clots probably took him off over half the league's boards would have been an instant plug and play guy for me here....Gute you can't blow a 6th on a guy with a slight medical question mark? Him aside, Dazz Newsome would have been a nice option here due to what-if Amari Rodgers doesn't pan out or if the WR corps gets hit with the injury bug during the season and we might need a next man up. That's not even talking about how the roster looks in 2022 yet. But if it had to have been an OL, Larnel Coleman from UMass would have been the pick for me as he had true versatility from my research.Isaiah McDuffie had me perplexed at his selection, he was the only prospect I don't think I had relatively any familiarity with, and I felt like I studied the Top 300 prospects pretty good. He does seem like a thumper, and from what I hear he's very smart(he ought to be going to BC) which allows him to make quick reads and diagnose what the offense is doing. I see another Oren Burks Special Teams ace, and we all know how bad we need to improve in that phase of the game. I've got no major issues with the selection, Dylan Moses did go undrafted though....but I won't go on that rant a second time, but Shaka Toney was there too. Other notables include Ben Skowronek from Notre Dame (WR/TE) and Marquiss Spencer out of Miss State (DL).Kylin Hill seems like an MLF gadget RB to me. He's got some excellent power to his running style, but I wonder if that'll be his undoing if he ever sees a considerable workload. He can catch, which is a plus because you normally don't see that with power backs but I wonder about his pass protection since he decided to opt out after not finding a groove in Mike Leach's offense, but that may be because he has no value in the space game. Hill will be at home in 12-personnel or heavy formations but I definitely don't see 3-down value. But hey, it's a 7th right? Dexter Williams is probably not too happy with this selection though. With this being the 3rd-to-last pick in the Draft the only people on my board I would have loved to have was my Draft crush of Johnathan Adams Jr (WR), Trill Williams(DB), Drake Jackson(C), Tariq Thompson (S), Bryan Mills(CB), Jamie Newman(QB), and longtime favorite in Marvin Wilson(DL) who most likely fell off due to medical.Again, I can't help but like the class, although there are a couple ways I would have gone differently. However I respect what Gute did, as he had to work with what he had. I just hope these all pan out like we all hope they do. If not, 2022 could leave us in a full-on rebuild. GPG.</blockquote>

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