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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 790415" data-attributes="member: 12283">It's a little funny to me that these debates always emerge between coach and player. Brady and Belichick is that one that usually comes up. It's both. And it's always both. A fantastic HC or OC can make a bad QB better, but he can't make a bad QB great. A good QB can't become great if scheme is completely holding him back. McVay is an innovator and a fantastic play caller. Goff was a great talent in college who is fast becoming an excellent quarterback. Together, they make for a stellar offense. We know that Goff with a terrible coaching staff was a horrible QB. And we also see examples of great (or supposedly great) offensive minds who can't get everything out of their offense because the QB holds them back (e.g. Nagy and Trubisky thus far).Todd Gurley is a good parallel example. He's always been a phenomenal running back. With Fisher, he looked mostly terrible. With McVay, he's a phenom. But if you took him out and put Kelly in, it's not like the running game would be equally as good. You need both.</blockquote>

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