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<blockquote data-quote="FrankRizzo" data-source="post: 528886" data-attributes="member: 2232"><p>From kindergarten in Minnesota and then California, to 3rd grade-high school back in Minnesota, thru college, the Packers were horrible, and I think won one playoff game, in a strike-shortened season over the Cardinals (St Louis or Arizona, I can't even remember)..... the Packers were a joke and embarrassment my whole scholastic career, and I got teased multiple times for wearing Packer jerseys and shirts, and being a Packer fan, in Minnesota.</p><p></p><p><strong>I know what lean years, decades, felt like.</strong></p><p></p><p>My kids have been born and grown up with us almost always making the playoffs.</p><p>Heck, <strong>anyone (Packer fan) about 21 and under has been spoiled </strong>compared the the 20 years before that.</p><p></p><p>That being said, like Ron Wolf publicly regretting<strong><em> only one</em></strong> ring in Green Bay, and like Mike McCarthy privately regretting only one ring in this<strong> unprecedented period of greatness from Aaron Rodgers</strong> (it won't last much longer), it is perfectly fine for coaches, management, journalists, players, and fans to wonder "what could have been".</p><p></p><p>And when you go down that path, the could haves obviously are negative.</p><p></p><p>The #1 culprit, in my opinion, is the "injury-God", or should we say "injury-devil".</p><p></p><p>Ted (wisely) invested in back-to-back bookend, supposed-franchise OT's to protect "the franchise" with his 2010 & 2011 1st round picks (Bulaga & Sherrod). </p><p>Had those 2 guys enjoyed the good health of guys like Ogden, Roaf, Hannah, Anthony Munoz, and all the 49er stud OL have been enjoying, then Rodgers would have had a great group of pass protectors all these years. His sacks would have been down, and Donny Barclay wouldn't have been out there trying to block Shea McClellin in the first place.</p><p></p><p>The #2 culprit, in my opinion, has to be on the defensive side of the ball and that starts with the man running the defense, Dom Capers.</p><p></p><p>The #3 culprit, in my opinion, are some personnel mistakes. The same guy who made the <strong>most brilliant draft-day move of the decade</strong> (that was trading up, and selecting Clay <strong>Matthews</strong>), and who had the ballz to snatch the free-falling Aaron <strong>Rodgers </strong>in 2005, and who found a diamond in the rough in Nick <strong>Collins</strong>, a Hall of Fame player (and quality person) for us, also has gone against the grain and has really avoided the building blocks via free agency.</p><p></p><p>This has helped in some regards, but in cases like this year, it's backfired. The back end of the defense has been a black hole. All youth. Morgan Burnett has never shown to be a stud back there yet. He's still potential. And we know nobody else at <strong>Safety </strong>has stepped up yet.</p><p></p><p>This was a position that everyone, fans, scouts, analysts, draftnicks, expected the Packers to select a guy high in this past draft, or the one before, and Ted did his own thing there, and it's results, are, as we all have seen, a failure back there as they have released last year's fairly-high pick McMillian.</p><p></p><p>And then there's the backup QB deal, which, if you will remember, was ripped on by media local and nationwide, back in late August, when they first backed Graham Harrell, and Vinny Young, and BJ Coleman, and then they cast em all away at the last minute, giving up on those projects, and banking that Rodgers would never go down.</p><p></p><p>That was terrible work there.</p><p>Bad judgment, bad timing. Bad planning.</p><p>And it has come back to take a huge bite in the ****.</p><p>As everyone can now see this past 5 games.</p><p>All we needed was a win or two in these past 5 games, and we'd be still in first place.</p><p></p><p>I'm thankful we had Wolf, and have Thompson. They each made some brilliant moves to give us tons of happy moments and to 3 Super Bowls. </p><p>Half of my best friends are Viking fans. Poor grape ape fans.</p><p>I know what that could be like, and we've been blessed and lucky as fans.</p><p></p><p>But Wolf and Thompson both made some mistakes, they both admit, that cost them, perhaps, another title or two. Wolf expected a mini-dynasty.</p><p></p><p>Thompson, I just want him to fill some holes for once via free agency, like HIS Woodson and Pickett additions.</p><p>If he doesn't adapt, I think we've seen the last Super Bowl in awhile, because solely relying on "<em>draft & develop</em>" will not improve us enough, especially the defense.</p><p></p><p>Everyone else drafts too. Drafting is always a gamble. It's easier to project a guy who you have seen play in the NFL than a guy who's best competition was against an SEC or Big 10 team.</p><p></p><p>A lot of great players have been acquired via free agency around the league.</p><p>Not only Super Bowl winning QBs like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees & Kurt Warner, but the Ravens last year, Anquan Boldin? He was a free agent addition from the Cardinals a few years before. He won that game for them.</p><p></p><p>Many offensive lineman, linebackers, and defensive backs on great teams were added via free agency.</p><p>We obviously failed with Jerron McMillian the draft pick, and MD Jennings looks like a failure as well, at least so far... he's still "<em>developing</em>".</p><p></p><p>I don't have a problem with anyone questioning things.</p><p>Just whining and complaining about everything, while not acknowledging the good moves, that's uncalled for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankRizzo, post: 528886, member: 2232"] From kindergarten in Minnesota and then California, to 3rd grade-high school back in Minnesota, thru college, the Packers were horrible, and I think won one playoff game, in a strike-shortened season over the Cardinals (St Louis or Arizona, I can't even remember)..... the Packers were a joke and embarrassment my whole scholastic career, and I got teased multiple times for wearing Packer jerseys and shirts, and being a Packer fan, in Minnesota. [B]I know what lean years, decades, felt like.[/B] My kids have been born and grown up with us almost always making the playoffs. Heck, [B]anyone (Packer fan) about 21 and under has been spoiled [/B]compared the the 20 years before that. That being said, like Ron Wolf publicly regretting[B][I] only one[/I][/B] ring in Green Bay, and like Mike McCarthy privately regretting only one ring in this[B] unprecedented period of greatness from Aaron Rodgers[/B] (it won't last much longer), it is perfectly fine for coaches, management, journalists, players, and fans to wonder "what could have been". And when you go down that path, the could haves obviously are negative. The #1 culprit, in my opinion, is the "injury-God", or should we say "injury-devil". Ted (wisely) invested in back-to-back bookend, supposed-franchise OT's to protect "the franchise" with his 2010 & 2011 1st round picks (Bulaga & Sherrod). Had those 2 guys enjoyed the good health of guys like Ogden, Roaf, Hannah, Anthony Munoz, and all the 49er stud OL have been enjoying, then Rodgers would have had a great group of pass protectors all these years. His sacks would have been down, and Donny Barclay wouldn't have been out there trying to block Shea McClellin in the first place. The #2 culprit, in my opinion, has to be on the defensive side of the ball and that starts with the man running the defense, Dom Capers. The #3 culprit, in my opinion, are some personnel mistakes. The same guy who made the [B]most brilliant draft-day move of the decade[/B] (that was trading up, and selecting Clay [B]Matthews[/B]), and who had the ballz to snatch the free-falling Aaron [B]Rodgers [/B]in 2005, and who found a diamond in the rough in Nick [B]Collins[/B], a Hall of Fame player (and quality person) for us, also has gone against the grain and has really avoided the building blocks via free agency. This has helped in some regards, but in cases like this year, it's backfired. The back end of the defense has been a black hole. All youth. Morgan Burnett has never shown to be a stud back there yet. He's still potential. And we know nobody else at [B]Safety [/B]has stepped up yet. This was a position that everyone, fans, scouts, analysts, draftnicks, expected the Packers to select a guy high in this past draft, or the one before, and Ted did his own thing there, and it's results, are, as we all have seen, a failure back there as they have released last year's fairly-high pick McMillian. And then there's the backup QB deal, which, if you will remember, was ripped on by media local and nationwide, back in late August, when they first backed Graham Harrell, and Vinny Young, and BJ Coleman, and then they cast em all away at the last minute, giving up on those projects, and banking that Rodgers would never go down. That was terrible work there. Bad judgment, bad timing. Bad planning. And it has come back to take a huge bite in the ****. As everyone can now see this past 5 games. All we needed was a win or two in these past 5 games, and we'd be still in first place. I'm thankful we had Wolf, and have Thompson. They each made some brilliant moves to give us tons of happy moments and to 3 Super Bowls. Half of my best friends are Viking fans. Poor grape ape fans. I know what that could be like, and we've been blessed and lucky as fans. But Wolf and Thompson both made some mistakes, they both admit, that cost them, perhaps, another title or two. Wolf expected a mini-dynasty. Thompson, I just want him to fill some holes for once via free agency, like HIS Woodson and Pickett additions. If he doesn't adapt, I think we've seen the last Super Bowl in awhile, because solely relying on "[I]draft & develop[/I]" will not improve us enough, especially the defense. Everyone else drafts too. Drafting is always a gamble. It's easier to project a guy who you have seen play in the NFL than a guy who's best competition was against an SEC or Big 10 team. A lot of great players have been acquired via free agency around the league. Not only Super Bowl winning QBs like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees & Kurt Warner, but the Ravens last year, Anquan Boldin? He was a free agent addition from the Cardinals a few years before. He won that game for them. Many offensive lineman, linebackers, and defensive backs on great teams were added via free agency. We obviously failed with Jerron McMillian the draft pick, and MD Jennings looks like a failure as well, at least so far... he's still "[I]developing[/I]". I don't have a problem with anyone questioning things. Just whining and complaining about everything, while not acknowledging the good moves, that's uncalled for. [/QUOTE]
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