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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1080688" data-attributes="member: 17987">LVN has been an odd one lately. I do think he "does more" than the box score often shows, at least this season. Just simply visually, he has looked to have a way bigger impact this year, and was arguably trending the right way. Now in part the big question is - how much of that is the player developing, and how much of that is just benefitting from having an elite guy like Micah opening things up?At the same time (and maybe this is an indictment of Gary as well), in what looked like his best stretch of games, he was averaging 1.67 pressures per game and 1.83 total tackles per game. Gary is not generating much more pressures (1.73), but almost double the tackles at 3.36Anywho I guess it kind of depends on how you define "bust" as usual. Some folks take a bust to mean "not an NFL player," others take it to mean more like "not living up to his draft position" If it's the former I wholeheartedly disagree. IMO he has developed into a perfectly serviceable player, and is good enough to at least have in your rotationIf it's the latter, that seems to be pointing towards true... Maybe he will be a very late bloomer, but it's hard to imagine that to a degree that he ever looks like the guy you expect with a top-15 pick. In some sense I think the place a player was drafted can both help and hurt them. Many people will say "He was a top 15 pick" and is always going to get graded against that. Never mind if he develops into a solid albeit not "top 15 pick" type of player. On the other hand, being a top pick tends to give people more patience, too. Like, if he was a day two pick...people would probably say "yeah, that looks about right" and not "we drafted this guy day 2 but he looks like a first rounder!" so it kinda goes both ways. of course, draft picks ARE finite resources. you're limited in how many you have to invest (obviously) but also in the financial sense. The #13 pick in 2023 came with a total contract value of something like 17m, but at the end of the 1st round is down to sub-10m, and the 13th pick in the second round is half that initial price at ~8m. So in other words, when a player doesn't "live up to their draft position," even if they DO develop into a quality starter, you end up in a situation where you are paying them well above their "expected" pay range...</blockquote>

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