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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 951564" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>Disclaimer: The move to trade up and draft Jordan Love was definitively a bad one. Please understand I'm not saying otherwise.</p><p></p><p>However, what often gets missed and/or forgotten in the discussion is the performance of Rodgers leading up to that move. I think most fans, understandably, look at that move through the lens of Rodgers' back to back MVP seasons that came on its heels. </p><p></p><p>But prior to that draft selection, Rodgers had gone through a five year span in which he simply was not performing at the elite level that we had all become accustomed to in his earlier days. 2015-2019, here are his rate and QBR:</p><p></p><p>-2015: 92.7/60</p><p>-2016: 104.2/72.4</p><p>-2017: 97.2/66</p><p>-2018: 97.6/58</p><p>-2019: 95.4/52.5</p><p></p><p>Now those aren't <em>bad </em>results, but if your QB is eating ~20% of the salary cap, you can't win championships with that level of production. Much of the problem, rightly, was attributed to McCarthy's terrible offense and Rodgers' bad habits. But then they made the change in 2019 to LaFleur and while the record improved, Rodgers' production really didn't.</p><p></p><p>And so in the 2020 draft, you're looking at a 36 year old QB who will require elite money to keep but isn't providing elite play, and who hasn't improved under a new coach/system. So a QB you really like falls within reach, and you go get him so that you're prepared in case Rodgers is essentially finished. </p><p></p><p>Critics will say that you could clearly see on tape that Rodgers' skills were not diminished, and I agree with that. But his skills were never the issue-- the issue was his willingness to play within structure and execute an offense instead of constantly going off-script and playing hero ball. The latter had become his consistent bad habit, and it was killing his overall production.</p><p></p><p>But then of course we know that he got better adjusted to the offense and began executing it and the rest is history. His numbers jumped to:</p><p></p><p>-2020: 121.5/79.9</p><p>-2021: 111.9/69.1</p><p></p><p>And he looked like the last guy in the entire league that anyone would want to replace. Good for him, and good for the Packers. </p><p></p><p>So you can reasonably criticize the move to get Love, but you can't do it in the light of Rodgers' success in 2020-21-- that's intellectually dishonest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 951564, member: 12283"] Disclaimer: The move to trade up and draft Jordan Love was definitively a bad one. Please understand I'm not saying otherwise. However, what often gets missed and/or forgotten in the discussion is the performance of Rodgers leading up to that move. I think most fans, understandably, look at that move through the lens of Rodgers' back to back MVP seasons that came on its heels. But prior to that draft selection, Rodgers had gone through a five year span in which he simply was not performing at the elite level that we had all become accustomed to in his earlier days. 2015-2019, here are his rate and QBR: -2015: 92.7/60 -2016: 104.2/72.4 -2017: 97.2/66 -2018: 97.6/58 -2019: 95.4/52.5 Now those aren't [I]bad [/I]results, but if your QB is eating ~20% of the salary cap, you can't win championships with that level of production. Much of the problem, rightly, was attributed to McCarthy's terrible offense and Rodgers' bad habits. But then they made the change in 2019 to LaFleur and while the record improved, Rodgers' production really didn't. And so in the 2020 draft, you're looking at a 36 year old QB who will require elite money to keep but isn't providing elite play, and who hasn't improved under a new coach/system. So a QB you really like falls within reach, and you go get him so that you're prepared in case Rodgers is essentially finished. Critics will say that you could clearly see on tape that Rodgers' skills were not diminished, and I agree with that. But his skills were never the issue-- the issue was his willingness to play within structure and execute an offense instead of constantly going off-script and playing hero ball. The latter had become his consistent bad habit, and it was killing his overall production. But then of course we know that he got better adjusted to the offense and began executing it and the rest is history. His numbers jumped to: -2020: 121.5/79.9 -2021: 111.9/69.1 And he looked like the last guy in the entire league that anyone would want to replace. Good for him, and good for the Packers. So you can reasonably criticize the move to get Love, but you can't do it in the light of Rodgers' success in 2020-21-- that's intellectually dishonest. [/QUOTE]
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