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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 1092751" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>It's somewhat a loaded question and opinion, to be fair. And I don't dismiss him, just that he wasn't worth #5. We're going off the rails slightly, but in the modern game, its pass offense and the defenders to match them. Quarterbacks, LTs, pass rushers, and cover men. Most other positions struggle to be worth it.</p><p></p><p>For a MLB/WOLB/ILB type to make it, he'd have to cover as well as a safety, be able to average 4+ sacks a year, wear the dot, etc etc etc. </p><p>For me, the biggest problem with him was that he was topped out in college and didn't have room to grow. Excellent college linebacker, average to above average NFL linebacker. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There weren't many other options and he had name recognition. Mario Williams needed time to grow into the league. </p><p></p><p>I'd also say that he made a splash year 1 and never really followed up after that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd have to go digging and compare him to his contemporaries. My gut is once again, those are fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Meaningless stat. Linebackers SHOULD get a whole lot of tackles. If they aren't, look into why, but ~100 is table stakes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're probably right. He was "safe," and there is a time and place for that, but the earlier you're picking, the more safe isn't good enough, imho. I don't know exactly if there is a curve or what it looks like, but I'd like my 1st to be special players or take the gamble that they will be. At some point, you're looking for solid players (3rd?) and then whatever strikes your fancy late.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 1092751, member: 4199"] It's somewhat a loaded question and opinion, to be fair. And I don't dismiss him, just that he wasn't worth #5. We're going off the rails slightly, but in the modern game, its pass offense and the defenders to match them. Quarterbacks, LTs, pass rushers, and cover men. Most other positions struggle to be worth it. For a MLB/WOLB/ILB type to make it, he'd have to cover as well as a safety, be able to average 4+ sacks a year, wear the dot, etc etc etc. For me, the biggest problem with him was that he was topped out in college and didn't have room to grow. Excellent college linebacker, average to above average NFL linebacker. There weren't many other options and he had name recognition. Mario Williams needed time to grow into the league. I'd also say that he made a splash year 1 and never really followed up after that. I'd have to go digging and compare him to his contemporaries. My gut is once again, those are fine. Meaningless stat. Linebackers SHOULD get a whole lot of tackles. If they aren't, look into why, but ~100 is table stakes. You're probably right. He was "safe," and there is a time and place for that, but the earlier you're picking, the more safe isn't good enough, imho. I don't know exactly if there is a curve or what it looks like, but I'd like my 1st to be special players or take the gamble that they will be. At some point, you're looking for solid players (3rd?) and then whatever strikes your fancy late. [/QUOTE]
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