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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 813808"><p>Need I remind you that you said "never...ever", but that's just the half of it. Look at the Ravens game? Ouch. 11 sacks with only 40 offensive plays run. That's supposed to be an argument for bringing whatever "scheme" or game tactics were used to Green Bay? But that's neither here nor there...different team, different players. But I gotta ask, if TEN ran a run first offense with first read/quick throw pocket passing as you contend, how the hell did they give up so many sacks in so few plays? That's gotta be some kind of record and <strong><em>Mariota is a mobile QB</em></strong> who uses his legs which makes it even worse.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, you know I can actually zero in on those plays with Game Pass and the ESPN play by play, right? Did you look at those plays or just read the box score? I don't know what point you're trying to make citing this game, but here are those 11 sacks for you to do with as you please:</p><p></p><p>Sack 1: Play action rollout designed for Mariota to use his legs. Suggs was not fooled and blew it up.</p><p>Sack 2: Mariota looking deep. It's not there, he pulls the ball down, tries to get out. Too late.</p><p>Sack 3: Mariota bails the pocket all the way to the sidelines and gets run out of bounds for the "sack"</p><p>Sack 4: Looks like an RPO into a 10 yard drop with 5 man rush. Mariota engulfed after 2.5 seconds.</p><p>Sack 5: Messed up blocking, DE blows through barely touched, knocks the ball out of Mariota's hand under 2 seconds</p><p>Sack 6: Mariota bailing the pocket trying to extend. Suggs closed off the edge and Mariota tried to turn it up inside. No go.</p><p>Sack 7: Mariota has some time, nobody open, he pulls the ball down and starts to bail but runs smack into the back of is OT, bounces off, looks to go the other way, too late</p><p>Sack 8: Mariota steps up, doesn't have anything, pulls the ball down, tries to run for it up through the pocket and the spy gets him</p><p>Sack 9: Nothing there, the spy blitzes, Mariota barely starts to bail before he's taken down</p><p>Sack 10: Again, Mariota looks to throw and it isn't there, pulls the ball down and starts to bail, gets ankle tackled as he exits</p><p>Sack 11: Mariota gets to 2.0 - 2.5 seconds, doesn't see anything, tries to run it up the gut and gets caught.</p><p></p><p>Sack 10 is not the only example, but it's the best one, where there's a first look timing pass that's covered, so Mariota looks to bail. And if you were to process this "story" all this through, you might realize that if you're going to run those one look timing plays you <strong><em>need </em></strong>a mobile QB to go to playground plan B and if you don't have that QB you'd best not run them very much. Note that Trubiski has pretty good wheels otherwise they wouldn't try it as often as they do.</p><p></p><p>Everybody runs timing throw plays. The Titans ran their fair share, as did the McCarthy Packers. But if we were to characterize that TEN offense, it's more of a run first, deep shot affair, with the other stuff mixed in. And yes, Dorothy, Mariota uses his legs, or at least tries to, a lot, but Baltimore had all the answers that day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 813808"] Need I remind you that you said "never...ever", but that's just the half of it. Look at the Ravens game? Ouch. 11 sacks with only 40 offensive plays run. That's supposed to be an argument for bringing whatever "scheme" or game tactics were used to Green Bay? But that's neither here nor there...different team, different players. But I gotta ask, if TEN ran a run first offense with first read/quick throw pocket passing as you contend, how the hell did they give up so many sacks in so few plays? That's gotta be some kind of record and [B][I]Mariota is a mobile QB[/I][/B] who uses his legs which makes it even worse. Anyway, you know I can actually zero in on those plays with Game Pass and the ESPN play by play, right? Did you look at those plays or just read the box score? I don't know what point you're trying to make citing this game, but here are those 11 sacks for you to do with as you please: Sack 1: Play action rollout designed for Mariota to use his legs. Suggs was not fooled and blew it up. Sack 2: Mariota looking deep. It's not there, he pulls the ball down, tries to get out. Too late. Sack 3: Mariota bails the pocket all the way to the sidelines and gets run out of bounds for the "sack" Sack 4: Looks like an RPO into a 10 yard drop with 5 man rush. Mariota engulfed after 2.5 seconds. Sack 5: Messed up blocking, DE blows through barely touched, knocks the ball out of Mariota's hand under 2 seconds Sack 6: Mariota bailing the pocket trying to extend. Suggs closed off the edge and Mariota tried to turn it up inside. No go. Sack 7: Mariota has some time, nobody open, he pulls the ball down and starts to bail but runs smack into the back of is OT, bounces off, looks to go the other way, too late Sack 8: Mariota steps up, doesn't have anything, pulls the ball down, tries to run for it up through the pocket and the spy gets him Sack 9: Nothing there, the spy blitzes, Mariota barely starts to bail before he's taken down Sack 10: Again, Mariota looks to throw and it isn't there, pulls the ball down and starts to bail, gets ankle tackled as he exits Sack 11: Mariota gets to 2.0 - 2.5 seconds, doesn't see anything, tries to run it up the gut and gets caught. Sack 10 is not the only example, but it's the best one, where there's a first look timing pass that's covered, so Mariota looks to bail. And if you were to process this "story" all this through, you might realize that if you're going to run those one look timing plays you [B][I]need [/I][/B]a mobile QB to go to playground plan B and if you don't have that QB you'd best not run them very much. Note that Trubiski has pretty good wheels otherwise they wouldn't try it as often as they do. Everybody runs timing throw plays. The Titans ran their fair share, as did the McCarthy Packers. But if we were to characterize that TEN offense, it's more of a run first, deep shot affair, with the other stuff mixed in. And yes, Dorothy, Mariota uses his legs, or at least tries to, a lot, but Baltimore had all the answers that day. [/QUOTE]
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