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<blockquote data-quote="Quientus" data-source="post: 258038" data-attributes="member: 1834"><p>I did *NOT* conclude anything ... on the contrary ... I was asking a question ... - Again you jump to conclusions ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again I was postulating ... Because from what I'm told ... McCarthy does infact reprimande players, however he almost never and by choice, never do it publically ... Because that is not how he (McCarthy) "run things" ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah ... Would seem you know why the players gave the Game Ball to McCarthy ... Despite of what was being said by the very same player, who gave him the Game Ball ... (look up the video clip, if you are not sure what I'm referring to ...)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, - Perhaps that is truly McCarthy's paradox ... - Because right now ... On the Packers team, there really is NO substitution if he wants to bench a player ... Because then you would probably argue the other way around, that McCarthy is being a fool, because he is benching the best choice he has for that position ... - If you are going to reprimande players and "punish" them by benching them ... it kinda requires you have a competent back-up to fill that particular spot ... And as everyone knows ... the Packers are stretched thin this year ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So by that definition, whenever a player is executing poorly, it's because the coach is failing at his job ? Because that is in essence what you are saying ... Ofcourse it's the coach's job to motivate, *HOWEVER* if the players aren't listening, it's NOT the coaches fault ... - Again my point is ... it's just not as black and white as *YOU* want it to be ...</p><p></p><p>McCarthy has already proven that he is able to coach, as long as he has some on-field leadership present as well within the team ... Something the Packers have lacked severely (it would seem) ever since Favre left ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually from watching the games ... There seem to be several indication of the coaches trying to adapt, but the players lacking the ability to execute ... and also the players lacking ability to adapt to the current game situation ... (I'm mainly referring to Rodgers here ... and his short passes and check down targets ... - They are *THERE*, but wasn't being used - untill the Dallas Game ...) - *That* is NOT the coaches fault, but more the players' fault ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To some extent ... But not only ... If the players aren't listening ... no amount of reprimanding nor "punishment" will make the situation better ... Jolly's comment after the game before the Dallas game is a very good indication of a player, who isn't really being professional enough ... Sad part is ... Who did you want McCarthy to replace him with ? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are plenty of "mature" players who *should* be leading on the Packers team ... - I fault the players more than I actually fault McCarthy at this point ... The Dallas Game kinda proved that point ... </p><p></p><p>Compare the Tampa game to the Dallas game ... - It was the same players (with a few select exceptions), - yet the game played in each was totally different - like 180 degrees different ... </p><p></p><p>That to me says more about the players, than it does about McCarthy ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If what you said above was true it would be IN-exusable from a professional NFL player ... - In fact that could be argued to being close to acting like a "Diva" or bunch of "Diva's" ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, IF that were even close to being true ... the entire squad ought to be fined and reprimanded by the Organisation in public ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I seriously doubt that ... - Again ... McCarthy didn't seem to have those problems in 2007 ... - And I'm saying that even though I'm a huge Favre fan ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, however, it is also about consistency from the players ... Not only the coach, however, in all sports, mostly when a team is performing poorly, the coach is the first to be blamed, and when it goes well, the players are the first to get credit, not the coaches ...</p><p></p><p>Case in point ... New England Patriots ...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just because McCarthy doesn't publically berate his players, doesn't mean he doesn't berate them ... - And I seriously doubt you would like if he did ... - Because I would bet you would be among the first to "rail" on him for doing it publically and not internally then ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quientus, post: 258038, member: 1834"] I did *NOT* conclude anything ... on the contrary ... I was asking a question ... - Again you jump to conclusions ... Again I was postulating ... Because from what I'm told ... McCarthy does infact reprimande players, however he almost never and by choice, never do it publically ... Because that is not how he (McCarthy) "run things" ... Ah ... Would seem you know why the players gave the Game Ball to McCarthy ... Despite of what was being said by the very same player, who gave him the Game Ball ... (look up the video clip, if you are not sure what I'm referring to ...) Again, - Perhaps that is truly McCarthy's paradox ... - Because right now ... On the Packers team, there really is NO substitution if he wants to bench a player ... Because then you would probably argue the other way around, that McCarthy is being a fool, because he is benching the best choice he has for that position ... - If you are going to reprimande players and "punish" them by benching them ... it kinda requires you have a competent back-up to fill that particular spot ... And as everyone knows ... the Packers are stretched thin this year ... So by that definition, whenever a player is executing poorly, it's because the coach is failing at his job ? Because that is in essence what you are saying ... Ofcourse it's the coach's job to motivate, *HOWEVER* if the players aren't listening, it's NOT the coaches fault ... - Again my point is ... it's just not as black and white as *YOU* want it to be ... McCarthy has already proven that he is able to coach, as long as he has some on-field leadership present as well within the team ... Something the Packers have lacked severely (it would seem) ever since Favre left ... Actually from watching the games ... There seem to be several indication of the coaches trying to adapt, but the players lacking the ability to execute ... and also the players lacking ability to adapt to the current game situation ... (I'm mainly referring to Rodgers here ... and his short passes and check down targets ... - They are *THERE*, but wasn't being used - untill the Dallas Game ...) - *That* is NOT the coaches fault, but more the players' fault ... To some extent ... But not only ... If the players aren't listening ... no amount of reprimanding nor "punishment" will make the situation better ... Jolly's comment after the game before the Dallas game is a very good indication of a player, who isn't really being professional enough ... Sad part is ... Who did you want McCarthy to replace him with ? There are plenty of "mature" players who *should* be leading on the Packers team ... - I fault the players more than I actually fault McCarthy at this point ... The Dallas Game kinda proved that point ... Compare the Tampa game to the Dallas game ... - It was the same players (with a few select exceptions), - yet the game played in each was totally different - like 180 degrees different ... That to me says more about the players, than it does about McCarthy ... If what you said above was true it would be IN-exusable from a professional NFL player ... - In fact that could be argued to being close to acting like a "Diva" or bunch of "Diva's" ... Again, IF that were even close to being true ... the entire squad ought to be fined and reprimanded by the Organisation in public ... I seriously doubt that ... - Again ... McCarthy didn't seem to have those problems in 2007 ... - And I'm saying that even though I'm a huge Favre fan ... I agree, however, it is also about consistency from the players ... Not only the coach, however, in all sports, mostly when a team is performing poorly, the coach is the first to be blamed, and when it goes well, the players are the first to get credit, not the coaches ... Case in point ... New England Patriots ... Just because McCarthy doesn't publically berate his players, doesn't mean he doesn't berate them ... - And I seriously doubt you would like if he did ... - Because I would bet you would be among the first to "rail" on him for doing it publically and not internally then ... [/QUOTE]
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