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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 945879" data-attributes="member: 7261">I think way too many variables to consider, as well as I don't agree that winning a Super Bowl ultimately defines that one player.  Really all one has to do is look at how bad the Packers have been when Rodgers isn't on the field, to know that he is the difference maker.  However, he obviously can't do it all on his own either.My point of bringing up Matthew Stafford is pretty obvious.  Most who watched him play over the years, myself included, saw a talented QB, submerged in a terrible organization. In his first year with the Rams, surrounded by so much more talent than he probably saw his entire career in Detroit, he is looking like a really good QB....great one?  Not really, but he has only been there once season.Do you think its coincidence that the Packers and Rodgers have had some of their worst games in the playoffs?  They usually have their worst games in the regular season when they play top teams too.  Rodgers is one guy, he can't overcome the short comings of the team, against a better opponent.</blockquote>

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