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Message: <blockquote data-quote="milani" data-source="post: 984931" data-attributes="member: 6654">I understand that place kickers back in the day were not usually specialists. They were position players. Even Lou Groza played a position early in his career. But 12 for 39? That was not norm. It was horrific! Even then.I am quite aware that place kickers back in the day were not specialists. But come on! 12-39 even then was not bad. It was horrific! The Packers had the top offense in the NFL or right next to it during those years. They did not need a HOF kicker. An average one would have meant another title. And back then you realize that the goal posts were on the goal line meaning a 50 yard FG today was only 40 then. And hash marks were wider on the field at the time meaning that place kicks had to be made from a wider angle unless the previously tackle was made closer to the center of the field.</blockquote>

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