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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 477455" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">When someone posts those working for the Packers and/or Packers fans don't care about the health of Rodgers, that's ridiculous IMO. And when he thanks the fans and sportswriters for making the Packers' staff care about Rodgers' health IMO that's embarrassingly silly (or "uniformed" or "stupid" if you prefer). As if McCarthy is unaware of the number of hits Rodgers takes or doesn't care if he remains "upright". That's <em>absurd</em>. And if there are any GMs and HCs in the league who have proven they're willing to buck public opinion to advance what they see as the best interests of their team, it's Thompson and McCarthy. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">When you posted "under MM and Campen we have never really had a go to short yardage running attack to rely on" I posted Kuhn's 3rd and 4th and short conversion stats. When you criticized McCarthy's play calling but couldn't back it up with one example, I pointed that out. (BTW, the "Duds" reference was meant to be humorous as evidenced by the smilie and by AmishMafia finding it "funny".) So I ask you, what compels you to do that and then not respond when your error about short yardage success under McCarthy and Campen is pointed out?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">In other threads when I posted as many as 9 questions for those like you who think firing Campen will cure all the problems on the OL, why didn't any of you even attempt to answer them? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">At this point I really don't care if you respond or not so let me help you: <strong>Click on my user name, then click on "Ignore"</strong>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">- - - - - - </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">BTW, could someone post an article which talks about Campen not being responsible for the OL play in 2010? I ask because I don’t remember reading or hearing that (not that anyone can read and hear everything). But IMO it's disingenuous for fans to criticize Campen for all the mistakes made by O linemen, but not give him credit for any of the good like developing players like Sitton. And for those who post that Barclay should be starting at LT next year, who do you suppose has been coaching him? Again I'm not a fan of Campen but he's been the OL coach since 2007 and he seems to be a "better" coach when he has better talent to work with. If the Clifton of the last 6 games of the 2010 season was starting at LT and a pre-injury Tauscher from the same season was starting at RT, Campen would look one hell-of-a-lot better. And a healthy Wells (I believe he's injured now) would be better than Saturday at OC. My main point regarding assistant coaches is it's very difficult for fans to know how responsible they are for the performance of their units. For example, how good would Kevin Greene look if Matthews were never a Packer? And it's not only talent but also the scheme being run that has an impact on the OL. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 477455, member: 4300"] [FONT=Tahoma]When someone posts those working for the Packers and/or Packers fans don't care about the health of Rodgers, that's ridiculous IMO. And when he thanks the fans and sportswriters for making the Packers' staff care about Rodgers' health IMO that's embarrassingly silly (or "uniformed" or "stupid" if you prefer). As if McCarthy is unaware of the number of hits Rodgers takes or doesn't care if he remains "upright". That's [I]absurd[/I]. And if there are any GMs and HCs in the league who have proven they're willing to buck public opinion to advance what they see as the best interests of their team, it's Thompson and McCarthy. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]When you posted "under MM and Campen we have never really had a go to short yardage running attack to rely on" I posted Kuhn's 3rd and 4th and short conversion stats. When you criticized McCarthy's play calling but couldn't back it up with one example, I pointed that out. (BTW, the "Duds" reference was meant to be humorous as evidenced by the smilie and by AmishMafia finding it "funny".) So I ask you, what compels you to do that and then not respond when your error about short yardage success under McCarthy and Campen is pointed out?[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]In other threads when I posted as many as 9 questions for those like you who think firing Campen will cure all the problems on the OL, why didn't any of you even attempt to answer them? [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]At this point I really don't care if you respond or not so let me help you: [B]Click on my user name, then click on "Ignore"[/B].[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]- - - - - - [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]BTW, could someone post an article which talks about Campen not being responsible for the OL play in 2010? I ask because I don’t remember reading or hearing that (not that anyone can read and hear everything). But IMO it's disingenuous for fans to criticize Campen for all the mistakes made by O linemen, but not give him credit for any of the good like developing players like Sitton. And for those who post that Barclay should be starting at LT next year, who do you suppose has been coaching him? Again I'm not a fan of Campen but he's been the OL coach since 2007 and he seems to be a "better" coach when he has better talent to work with. If the Clifton of the last 6 games of the 2010 season was starting at LT and a pre-injury Tauscher from the same season was starting at RT, Campen would look one hell-of-a-lot better. And a healthy Wells (I believe he's injured now) would be better than Saturday at OC. My main point regarding assistant coaches is it's very difficult for fans to know how responsible they are for the performance of their units. For example, how good would Kevin Greene look if Matthews were never a Packer? And it's not only talent but also the scheme being run that has an impact on the OL. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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