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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bogart" data-source="post: 399939" data-attributes="member: 3900">If he's a Patriots fan because the Browns are losers, then he's not a true fan.The 1986 and 1987 Browns are one of my favorite teams that never won anything. Great offense, elite quarterback for the time being, good head coach, and a nice westcoast offense scheme, but they still lost, oh well can't live in the past. I liked them much more than Denver.My folks sat for years watching the Saints lose all through the 80's, all through the 90's (between success), and all through the last decade before they built a team, and of course we have the "they were never good before Katrina" bandwagon that can't remember them making the playoffs a few times in the early 90's because they are not true fans.</blockquote>

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