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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bogart" data-source="post: 417154" data-attributes="member: 3900">He out played Peyton in 2009, stat's don't lie. He OWNED Manning in 2009 and still gets snubbed. He's always "good but not good enough" 11 INTs vs 16 INT's vs a 70.6 completion rate vs 68.8% completion percentage, yeah Manning is the greatest ever, and Brees is just OK and will never be good enough to be an MVP. He should have won the MVP in 2009, those stats are enough to prove it. Manning only won it because he's the golden boy league favorite just like Brady.  Seriously, Falcon fans are the only other fan base that I see that actually gives Brees credit, and they hate these guys worse than anyone else does, but they have enough to admit it and say he's better than Matt Ryan, and better than most people say he is. Everyone else always snubs him and talks like he's not good enough. When his name comes up for MVP discussion it's a million excuses to not say he deserves it. He out played Manning and lost it in 2009, if he actually wins it this year, you can say he did out play Rodgers, as he has a higher completion percentage than him, yards don't really matter.</blockquote>

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