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<blockquote data-quote="El Guapo" data-source="post: 914056" data-attributes="member: 5830"><p>Tackling machine without any big play impact. That type of player should be paired with a thumper like Desmond Bishop briefly was, or a big play linebacker. It's like pairing up a contact hitter with a home-run hitter.</p><p></p><p>I generally just look at players without looking at their draft position. Who cares if we drafted someone in the 1st or 7th round. I don't even care that one is paid more than the other. The team commits roughly $10M to 7 or 8 rookies in each draft. If 3 or 4 of those guys become solid contributors to the team then that is a success. Historically (by my calculations), the Packers have averaged about a 40% success rate in the draft. Yes "success" is subjective but I use the same criteria consistently. Ron Wolf was best at 46% with Ted Thompson second highest at 42%. For recent history, Mike Sherman was worst by far at 24%.</p><p></p><p>In that 2006 draft, TT drafted AJ Hawk, Daryn Colledge, Greg Jennings, Abdul Hodge, Jason Spitz, Cory Rodgers, Will Blackmon, Ingle Martin QB, Tony Moll OT, Johnny Jolly, Tyrone Culver DB, and Dave Tollefson DE. Out of 12 picks, roughly half of them became contributors on the team. Jennings was clearly the best, but Hawk was close behind with Jolly, Colledge, and Spitz as starters that didn't last more than a couple of years. Blackmon was a good special teamer and backup DB. Everyone else was forgettable.</p><p></p><p>IMO - The best draft in the past 30 years was 1995. Ron Wolf drafted Craig Newsom, Antonio Freeman, William Henderson, Brian Williams, Travis Jervey, and Adam Timmerman. He also traded a 2nd round pick for TE Keith Jackson. Darrius Holland could have been better and Wolf struck out on Jeff Miller, Jay Barker, and Charlie Simmons. Counting Holland as a failure and leaving out the Keith Jackson trade, Ron Wolf hit on 6 out of 10 for a 60% success rate. I don't give Adam Timmerman extra kudos for being a 7th round pick, and also don't take anything away from Craig Newsom for being a 1st round pick. He played well until tearing his ACL. Add back in the Keith Jackson trade, and Wolf really did a good job.</p><p></p><p>No matter the draft position, a GM needs to spend his rookie money and aim to get at least half or more of them to contribute positively to the team.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Guapo, post: 914056, member: 5830"] Tackling machine without any big play impact. That type of player should be paired with a thumper like Desmond Bishop briefly was, or a big play linebacker. It's like pairing up a contact hitter with a home-run hitter. I generally just look at players without looking at their draft position. Who cares if we drafted someone in the 1st or 7th round. I don't even care that one is paid more than the other. The team commits roughly $10M to 7 or 8 rookies in each draft. If 3 or 4 of those guys become solid contributors to the team then that is a success. Historically (by my calculations), the Packers have averaged about a 40% success rate in the draft. Yes "success" is subjective but I use the same criteria consistently. Ron Wolf was best at 46% with Ted Thompson second highest at 42%. For recent history, Mike Sherman was worst by far at 24%. In that 2006 draft, TT drafted AJ Hawk, Daryn Colledge, Greg Jennings, Abdul Hodge, Jason Spitz, Cory Rodgers, Will Blackmon, Ingle Martin QB, Tony Moll OT, Johnny Jolly, Tyrone Culver DB, and Dave Tollefson DE. Out of 12 picks, roughly half of them became contributors on the team. Jennings was clearly the best, but Hawk was close behind with Jolly, Colledge, and Spitz as starters that didn't last more than a couple of years. Blackmon was a good special teamer and backup DB. Everyone else was forgettable. IMO - The best draft in the past 30 years was 1995. Ron Wolf drafted Craig Newsom, Antonio Freeman, William Henderson, Brian Williams, Travis Jervey, and Adam Timmerman. He also traded a 2nd round pick for TE Keith Jackson. Darrius Holland could have been better and Wolf struck out on Jeff Miller, Jay Barker, and Charlie Simmons. Counting Holland as a failure and leaving out the Keith Jackson trade, Ron Wolf hit on 6 out of 10 for a 60% success rate. I don't give Adam Timmerman extra kudos for being a 7th round pick, and also don't take anything away from Craig Newsom for being a 1st round pick. He played well until tearing his ACL. Add back in the Keith Jackson trade, and Wolf really did a good job. No matter the draft position, a GM needs to spend his rookie money and aim to get at least half or more of them to contribute positively to the team. [/QUOTE]
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