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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 468763" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Is the OL much worse than last year? I don't think so. Remember Clifton was out for most of the season and when he returned he was so bad he was replaced. While IMO Bulaga has regressed some, Newhouse has certainly improved. Is the running game that much worse? As I posted on another thread: "<em>I realize some Packers fans are stuck on the need for a stud RB but the evidence points away from that point of view IMO. For example, it is indisputable that James Starks was a good enough RB for the Packers to go on a late season run and win the title after the 2010 season. And it is indisputable that the tandem of Starks and Grant was good enough at the position to help the 2011 offense lead the team to a 15-1 record and an incredibly prolific offense. </em></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><em>Last year the Packers averaged 24.7 rushing attempts per game for a 3.9 yard/attempt average. This season so far they've averaged 22.2 attempts per game for a 4.3 yard/attempt average. While those numbers are close, I'd argue if the passing O was more proficient at moving the chains this season, the rushing attempts would be even closer to last year's average. IMO those harping on a lack of a running game - or running threat - are biased by their preconceptions because neither the stats nor my eyes see a major difference in the running game this season vs. the last two</em>.</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">" </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Packers "hang their hat" on a dynamic and prolific passing game. From Rodgers' second season as a starter through last year it's been incredibly effective. I don't know how any serious fan could dispute that their passing game has been their greatest strength under McCarthy. Unless they can correct it so it is at least a semblance of its previous self, nothing else is going to matter IMO. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I think the defense is improved and because of its reliance on youngsters, I expect it to continue to improve as the season progresses. I think the defense is improved because I watched every play last season and this at least once. I think it's improved because last season it gave up 299.8 passing yards/game and this season 230 ypg. I think it's improved because I see more pressure being applied. Although it's not the "be all, end all" stat, last season the D averaged 1.8 sacks/game and this season 3.6 sacks/game. It gave up 4.4 plays/game of 20+ yards last year and 3.8 of those plays so far this year. Still too many but the trend is in the right direction. INTs are down by almost 1 per game and it's not because the Packers D hasn't gotten their hands on some - they just aren't holding on to 'em. The offense scored 12+ points per game more last season than this. Add those points and time of possession to this season and how does the defense look? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">IMO Rodgers is part of the problem but I don’t think Rodgers <em>IS</em> the problem, I think the passing game is out of sync and that's the problem. And IMO there are several reasons for that. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 468763, member: 4300"] [FONT=Tahoma]Is the OL much worse than last year? I don't think so. Remember Clifton was out for most of the season and when he returned he was so bad he was replaced. While IMO Bulaga has regressed some, Newhouse has certainly improved. Is the running game that much worse? As I posted on another thread: "[I]I realize some Packers fans are stuck on the need for a stud RB but the evidence points away from that point of view IMO. For example, it is indisputable that James Starks was a good enough RB for the Packers to go on a late season run and win the title after the 2010 season. And it is indisputable that the tandem of Starks and Grant was good enough at the position to help the 2011 offense lead the team to a 15-1 record and an incredibly prolific offense. [/I][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][I]Last year the Packers averaged 24.7 rushing attempts per game for a 3.9 yard/attempt average. This season so far they've averaged 22.2 attempts per game for a 4.3 yard/attempt average. While those numbers are close, I'd argue if the passing O was more proficient at moving the chains this season, the rushing attempts would be even closer to last year's average. IMO those harping on a lack of a running game - or running threat - are biased by their preconceptions because neither the stats nor my eyes see a major difference in the running game this season vs. the last two[/I].[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]" [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]The Packers "hang their hat" on a dynamic and prolific passing game. From Rodgers' second season as a starter through last year it's been incredibly effective. I don't know how any serious fan could dispute that their passing game has been their greatest strength under McCarthy. Unless they can correct it so it is at least a semblance of its previous self, nothing else is going to matter IMO. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]I think the defense is improved and because of its reliance on youngsters, I expect it to continue to improve as the season progresses. I think the defense is improved because I watched every play last season and this at least once. I think it's improved because last season it gave up 299.8 passing yards/game and this season 230 ypg. I think it's improved because I see more pressure being applied. Although it's not the "be all, end all" stat, last season the D averaged 1.8 sacks/game and this season 3.6 sacks/game. It gave up 4.4 plays/game of 20+ yards last year and 3.8 of those plays so far this year. Still too many but the trend is in the right direction. INTs are down by almost 1 per game and it's not because the Packers D hasn't gotten their hands on some - they just aren't holding on to 'em. The offense scored 12+ points per game more last season than this. Add those points and time of possession to this season and how does the defense look? [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]IMO Rodgers is part of the problem but I don’t think Rodgers [I]IS[/I] the problem, I think the passing game is out of sync and that's the problem. And IMO there are several reasons for that. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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