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<blockquote data-quote="Do7" data-source="post: 825096" data-attributes="member: 13398"><p>Thank you captain obvious. But since chances are you're going to need an explanation as to why I said what I did I'll explain.</p><p></p><p>So since I'm on the side of saying let's bring Jordy Nelson back the arguments I've been getting in regards to the opposing side are the following:</p><p>Exhibit A. People are holding the 2017 season against him</p><p>Exhibit B. People say he would stunt the growth and development of other receivers</p><p>Exhibit C. He's pretty much done.</p><p>Exhibit D. We have better options at receivers. </p><p></p><p>Exhibit A: The most damning argument I've seen in regards to why we should not sign him in which I've seen thus far. To which I pointed out that we had a horrible QB in Hundley and as a result his numbers went down along with the rest of the receivers. The only receiver that did well that season was Devante and even he had a significant drop. So since people decided to use that argument against Jordy despite his years of consistency, I decided to turn the tables and use it on them, in which I pointed out how well our rookies did, in comparison to Jordy, who was their 3rd/4th option for most of the year. When he became one of the primary options he was able to make the most of it, unlike our rookies who continued to struggle and had more opportunities considering our #2 and #3 receiver went down in Cobb and Allison for most of the season. If that is unfair to do considering it was one season, then the same case can be made for everyone holding it against Jordy for that one year, based off he wasn't the only one who suffered, the entire offense did. Plus Jordy was leading the league in touchdowns prior to Rodgers going down.</p><p></p><p>Exhibit B: The argument here was saying that if we brought Jordy back it would stunt their growth by taking away their possessions. I then argued that we did the same thing in regards to bringing back James Jones b/c no one was able to fill that void when Jordy went down. So if by chance Jordy a 34 year old man beats them out, that clearly indicates that they aren't ready to fill in the void, while being able to learn from under him, as we know Jordy is a great teammate. </p><p></p><p>Exhibit C. Refer back to Exhibit A. as all evidence points to the contrary, especially when you factor that he did better than everyone on our receiver corp outside of Devante last season. While he may lost a step I certainly believe he can contribute to this team in winning football games, and I am certain he would've averaged 1000+ yards in GB last year had he stayed. Which leads me to my last point.</p><p></p><p>Exhibit D: And it is where I asked who among our group of receivers can you honestly say is better right now based off the production on the field going forward. I like some of their potential but I'm not ready to sit here and say that they are better than Jordy, considering what I saw out of them last year. So I say why not bring him and compete for a spot on the team. If these guys are truly the better option, then they should have no problem beating him out. If not, let them learn from under him as they gradually ease into the position. We've seen it with Devante, as it took him a couple seasons for him to emerge. Plus we'd be getting Jordy for cheap.</p><p></p><p>When I say valid point, I say that in regards to coming up with something in which I can't refute back, as by doing so buffers your point when making an argument. You certainly don't have to agree with me, as it's my opinion. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps "valid point" may have not been the right choice of words, but I find it weird that you're the only person that took exception to this. Try not to take it literally next time is all I can say.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Do7, post: 825096, member: 13398"] Thank you captain obvious. But since chances are you're going to need an explanation as to why I said what I did I'll explain. So since I'm on the side of saying let's bring Jordy Nelson back the arguments I've been getting in regards to the opposing side are the following: Exhibit A. People are holding the 2017 season against him Exhibit B. People say he would stunt the growth and development of other receivers Exhibit C. He's pretty much done. Exhibit D. We have better options at receivers. Exhibit A: The most damning argument I've seen in regards to why we should not sign him in which I've seen thus far. To which I pointed out that we had a horrible QB in Hundley and as a result his numbers went down along with the rest of the receivers. The only receiver that did well that season was Devante and even he had a significant drop. So since people decided to use that argument against Jordy despite his years of consistency, I decided to turn the tables and use it on them, in which I pointed out how well our rookies did, in comparison to Jordy, who was their 3rd/4th option for most of the year. When he became one of the primary options he was able to make the most of it, unlike our rookies who continued to struggle and had more opportunities considering our #2 and #3 receiver went down in Cobb and Allison for most of the season. If that is unfair to do considering it was one season, then the same case can be made for everyone holding it against Jordy for that one year, based off he wasn't the only one who suffered, the entire offense did. Plus Jordy was leading the league in touchdowns prior to Rodgers going down. Exhibit B: The argument here was saying that if we brought Jordy back it would stunt their growth by taking away their possessions. I then argued that we did the same thing in regards to bringing back James Jones b/c no one was able to fill that void when Jordy went down. So if by chance Jordy a 34 year old man beats them out, that clearly indicates that they aren't ready to fill in the void, while being able to learn from under him, as we know Jordy is a great teammate. Exhibit C. Refer back to Exhibit A. as all evidence points to the contrary, especially when you factor that he did better than everyone on our receiver corp outside of Devante last season. While he may lost a step I certainly believe he can contribute to this team in winning football games, and I am certain he would've averaged 1000+ yards in GB last year had he stayed. Which leads me to my last point. Exhibit D: And it is where I asked who among our group of receivers can you honestly say is better right now based off the production on the field going forward. I like some of their potential but I'm not ready to sit here and say that they are better than Jordy, considering what I saw out of them last year. So I say why not bring him and compete for a spot on the team. If these guys are truly the better option, then they should have no problem beating him out. If not, let them learn from under him as they gradually ease into the position. We've seen it with Devante, as it took him a couple seasons for him to emerge. Plus we'd be getting Jordy for cheap. When I say valid point, I say that in regards to coming up with something in which I can't refute back, as by doing so buffers your point when making an argument. You certainly don't have to agree with me, as it's my opinion. Perhaps "valid point" may have not been the right choice of words, but I find it weird that you're the only person that took exception to this. Try not to take it literally next time is all I can say. [/QUOTE]
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