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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 840416"><p>You are looking at cap numbers, not what a guy is getting paid now. $1.25 mil of Crosby's 2019 cap number was paid to him back in back in 2016 in the form of signing bonus. Another $150,000 was paid as a workout bonus in OTAs. That's sunk cost, water under the bridge, and no longer relevant to what is done <em>now</em>.</p><p></p><p>Haushka's new deal does not compare to Turner's new deal. Haushka's deal has no job security after 2019. He got a small signing bonus so his "silent guarantees" are virtually nil with cap savings after this season. Turner's extension has an $8 mil signing bonus and a total of $12 mil in guarantees. His large negative cap saving for 2019 and 2020, and near zero in year 3, provides a lot of silent gurantee that would make him hard to replace economically until 2022. It's the same kind of math we apply to Rodgers and the timing of a replacement, just on a smaller scale.</p><p></p><p>Isolating a cap number in a particular year is not the best way to assess current realities.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say Crosby isn't still highly paid or that his 2016 extension wasn't an ovepayment. But a chunk of that is, to repeat, water under the bridge.</p><p></p><p>Teams should submit these guys to testing by a sports psychologist as much as physical exams. Whether Ficken would be any good depends on focus, calm under pressure and mental toughness. We know Crosby's ups and downs. He has, however, shown enough mental toughness to bounce back from a bad season, or a bad game as was the case last season. I have no idea whether Ficken can stand up. We'll get that evaluation in the form of a decision soon enough.</p><p></p><p>Money is a part of it, but not all of it, to say the least.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 840416"] You are looking at cap numbers, not what a guy is getting paid now. $1.25 mil of Crosby's 2019 cap number was paid to him back in back in 2016 in the form of signing bonus. Another $150,000 was paid as a workout bonus in OTAs. That's sunk cost, water under the bridge, and no longer relevant to what is done [I]now[/I]. Haushka's new deal does not compare to Turner's new deal. Haushka's deal has no job security after 2019. He got a small signing bonus so his "silent guarantees" are virtually nil with cap savings after this season. Turner's extension has an $8 mil signing bonus and a total of $12 mil in guarantees. His large negative cap saving for 2019 and 2020, and near zero in year 3, provides a lot of silent gurantee that would make him hard to replace economically until 2022. It's the same kind of math we apply to Rodgers and the timing of a replacement, just on a smaller scale. Isolating a cap number in a particular year is not the best way to assess current realities. That's not to say Crosby isn't still highly paid or that his 2016 extension wasn't an ovepayment. But a chunk of that is, to repeat, water under the bridge. Teams should submit these guys to testing by a sports psychologist as much as physical exams. Whether Ficken would be any good depends on focus, calm under pressure and mental toughness. We know Crosby's ups and downs. He has, however, shown enough mental toughness to bounce back from a bad season, or a bad game as was the case last season. I have no idea whether Ficken can stand up. We'll get that evaluation in the form of a decision soon enough. Money is a part of it, but not all of it, to say the least. [/QUOTE]
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